Ian Murphy made national news when, as valedictorian of his high school class, he was threatened by his school NOT to say the name of Jesus in his speech.

He joins the Joes to talk about his book "Dying to Live", which details his extraordinary story and the unexpected twists and turns his life has taken... and the Lord who has never let him go along the way.

Dying to Live: https://ignatius.com/dying-to-live-dtlp/

Joe & Joe on X: https://x.com/withjoeandjoe