This one’s just us – Travis and Tom – no guest, no script, just a proper chat. We go back to where it all started – our own routes through hospitality – and talk honestly about what shaped us as operators. We unpack what being a “proper operator” really means, and why that phrase still resonates. It’s part reflection, part therapy, and part reminder that great operations is still about people, pride, and getting the details right – whether it’s ice, blue roll, or how you show up for your team.