Dr Kathy McLean talks to senior leaders from the Nottingham and Nottinghamshire Integrated Care System about the importance of lifting our gaze from day to day work and taking a more transformative approach. The panel includes Anthony May (Chief Executive at Nottingham University Hospitals Trust), Melanie Williams (Corporate Director at Nottinghamshire County Council), Lucy Hubber (Director of Public Health for Nottingham) and Dr Stephen Shortt (Deputy Medical Director for Nottingham and Nottinghamshire ICB).