Shrinking Trump

If We Don’t Hang Together, We Will Surely Hang Separately


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Today on Shrinking Trump, Dr.’s John Gartner and Harry Siegel dissect the complex dynamics of America’s post-election landscape, and the psychological toll recent events have taken on the public psyche. Dr. Jason Stanley, an author and professor of philosophy at Yale, joins the show to provide historical perspective and warn against the dangers of authoritarianism. 


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Dr. Gartner and Dr. Siegel launched Shrinking Trump out of concern for the dangerous tendencies of Donald Trump, including potential dementia and personality disorders. Months later, our focus has widened to consider the implications of Trump's return to the White House. As a country seemingly on the brink of drastic changes, together we’ll ponder what these shifts mean for democracy, civil service, and the psychological wellbeing of Americans.


In this all-new episode, our hosts reflect on the growing concerns about Trump’s threats to democracy and explore historical parallels that speak to the dangers of silence and inaction in the face of tyranny. Harry and John also shed light on the precarious situation facing federal employees who are grappling with the threat of political purges.


And we’ll have a tense discussion about Biden using pardons to protect folks who have unjustly been targeted by Trump’s personal political vendettas.


As social morals are overshadowed by political agendas, we’ll explore strategies for maintaining sanity, such as embracing radical impermanence and pursuing personal morality. Dr. Gartner opens up about his own moments of profound sadness, while Dr. Siegel explains how he alternates between denial and engagement. 


Advocating for mindfulness and reaffirming our moral values, the Dr. 's urge our listeners to remain resolute, even when institutions appear to falter. They also discuss the vital role of maintaining personal networks and nurturing one's mental health for creating a buffer against prevailing anxieties. 


Be sure to join us next time as we continue to unpack the psychological and political implications of these transformative times. 

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