Tom Gelbmann, Co-Founder of the EDRM, sits down with Kaylee & Mary to catch us up on what's been happening with him since his last Illumination Zone appearance three years ago. We talked about how the iconic EDRM model came about, his thoughts on the EDRM 2.0 update for it, the IGRM and we elicited a fun fact about this OG of the eDiscovery community.