Johanna Kinnock & Maria Jencel find out what it actually takes to be the change they want to see in the world.

What comes in all shapes, sizes and colours, is a vital life source, and ends up in the bin one third of the time? You guessed it: food. In this episode of the 5 Podcast we’re talking about food waste. Johanna and Maria ask how big a problem it is for the planet, how we can waste less, and how we got so casual about wasting food in the first place. We're joined by Tristram Stuart, a campaigner who wants us all to throw less away, and Mette Toftegaard Rasmussen of eSmiley, which makes software to help businesses get food waste under control. Plus, Maria comes face to face with the amount of food she actually wastes in a year.

What we read and watched 

Tristram Stewart: the global food waste scandal, ted talk 

Selina Juul: Stop Wasting food, ted talk 

Food waste is an ethical scandal, the UN 

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Johanna Kinnock and Maria Jencel try to find out what it actually takes to be the change they want to see in the world. “Greenwashing” is the scary trend of companies' trying to appear far more sustainable than they actually are. In the corporate race to sound and look as green as possible, how can consumers keep up? How do we know what's for real? We speak to greenwashing expert Andreas Rasche about whether intention matters when it comes to sustainability and Gordon Renouf, co-founder of popular brand transparency app Good On You about how everyone has the right to know where their clothes came from. We also throw ourselves in the green end by trying to go a day without consuming anything un-sustainable (to dubious success).  

Here are links to what we've been reading about greenwashing. 

The troubling evolution of greenwashing, The Guardian

Good On You, transparent fashion app 

This app tells you how ethical fashion brands really are, DAZED 

Johanna Kinnock and Maria Jencel try to find out what it actually takes to be the change they want to see in the world. Do you ever get the sense that your phone knows a bit too much about you? For this episode of the 5 Podcast, we take a deep dive into our own data and investigate whether Mark Zuckerberg truly knows "who our next partner will be”. We ask digitisation expert Christiane Vejlø (Elektronista) about what exactly he meant by that, and whether a moral compass is on its way to Silicon Valley anytime soon. Finally, we talk to the founder of an ethical search engine, who proves that there are people in the tech world who are at least as concerned about our right to privacy as they are about making money.  

Here are some of the things that inspired us when making the podcast. 

The Social Dilemma, Netflix. Watch it here.

Givero.com, the moral search engine. Use it here.

“How Evil is tech?”, The New York Times opinion. Read it here.

Elektronista, a (danish) platform for thinking about tech and humankind. Check it out here. 

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Johanna Kinnock and Maria Jencel ask big questions about the world around them and get an eclectic mix of guests to help find the answers. What didn’t you learn in school that you wish you had? What skills do you hope the class of 2020 is graduating with? The education system is like a super tanker that hasn’t changed direction much ever since attending school first became mandatory around the year 1800. But at 5 we think that with all the brand new challenges looming on the horizon, it’s time for schools to break out of their tired old ways. For this episode of the 5 Podcast, the 5 Media editorial staff invent our perfect school, “the new school”, and we speak to some of the fiery teachers trying to get coding, sex ed and climate to the top of the curriculum.

Here's where to go if you want to learn more: 

Raising a digitally literate generation - Lis Zacho Tedx Talk

From what if to what next - Rob Hopkins podcast with Karen MacLean from the Green Free School

Why are Finland’s schools so successful? - Smithsonian Magazine 

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Johanna Kinnock and Maria Jencel ask big questions about the world around them and get an eclectic mix of guests to help find the answers. 2020 has been a year we will always remember, with Corona, BLM and a historical election coming up. As the news has run amok, the internet has tried to keep up, which has led to an explosion of satirical, hysterical and downright absurd memes. Today the 5 Podcast examines memes as a cultural phenomena of our time. We dive deep into the meme world and ask - why are they so popular? What do they do, if anything? And why is humour so powerful when the world looks like it’s burning? We also take on the daunting challenge of making our own meme, and get some help from a meme expert and a meme maker along the way. 

As always, here are some links to stuff we talked about in the podcast: 

What exactly is a 'Karen' and where did the meme come from? - The BBC 

The Memes! They're Everywhere! - An Xiao Mina for the Atlantic

Coronavirus Remix - YouTube

Maya Tekeli on Instagram 

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Chants, toppling statues, signs and singing fill the streets worldwide in response to the death of George Floyd and 100s of other African Americans at the hands of the American Police. This is the third and final episode in the mini-series “After the protest”, where Johanna Kinnock and Maria Brus Pedersen dive into some of the big questions raised by the current demonstrations with some of the leading experts and changemakers on the issue. 

For this episode they speak to people who imagine different futures for the police: David Kennedy, a criminologist who believes that before we can move forward the American Police needs to engage in a reconciliation process with the people. They speak to former police officer Melvin Russel who believes that the police have the potential to do good but needs to be reformed. And they speak to lawyer and activist Derecka Purnell who believes that we need to abolish the police completely and collectively imagine a different future. 

Listen to the previous episodes in the mini-series here: 

After the protests #1: From slave patrols to police brutality - a history of race and the American Police - here

Here’s what to read if you want to learn more:

An interview with the Mayor of Minneapolis - The Daily. Listen here 

What a world without cops would look like - Mother Jones. Read here

Angela Davis: ‘There is an unbroken line of police violence in the US that takes us all the way back to the days of slavery’ - The Guardian. Read here  

Why the policing problem isn’t about “a few bad apples” - Vox. Read here 

Chants, toppling statues, signs and singing fill the streets worldwide in response to the death of George Floyd and 100s of other African Americans at the hands of the American Police. This is the second episode of 5 Podcast's mini-series “After the protest”. Johanna Kinnock and Maria Brus Pedersen dive into some of the big questions raised by the current demonstrations with some of the leading experts and change-makers on the issue. For this episode they speak to Danish debater and activist Prince Henry, about what “allyship” is all about and why white people need to step their anti-racism game up.

Here are a few further ressources to learn more about race and allyship: 

• Why I'm no longer talking to white people about race, Reni Eddo-Lodge (excerpt) 

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Chants, toppling statues, signs and singing fill the streets worldwide in response to the death of George Floyd and dozens of other African Americans at the hands of the American Police. Over the next few weeks, the 5 Podcast will be releasing the mini-series “After the protest”. Johanna Kinnock and Maria Brus Pedersen dive into some of the big questions raised by the current demonstrations with some of the leading experts and change-makers on the issue. For this episode they speak to Wendell Adjetey, assistant professor at McGill University, who helps them uncover the historic roots of police brutality towards black people in America.

Here’s what to read if you want to learn more:

• The condition of black life is one of mourning, The New York Times 

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Johanna Kinnock and Maria Brus Pedersen invite an eclectic mix of guests to help them navigate the ins and outs of the big questions of our time. For this episode, they investigate the potential of being truly, utterly bored. Maria gives Johanna a really boring task to unlock her creative potential. They talk to Dutch journalist Olga Mecking, who has written a book on Niksen, the Dutch concept of doing nothing, and they get a hold of a really busy boredom professor, Sandi Mann.

Once you've listened, what to read: 

• The case for doing nothing, The New York Times

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