Episode 5. To and fro between Brazil and US. To and fro between industry and academia. Immigration stories from three computer scientists from immigrated from Brazil in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s. And went to and fro between being academic faculty and working in industry. Featuring: Rico Malvar (NAE Member, IEEE Fellow, former Microsoft Research Director), Dilma da Silva (Professor at Texas A&M, Co-Founder of Latinas in Computing, former CSE Department Head), Rodrigo Fonseca (Microsoft Research, former Professor).