Today, we’re bringing you a special feed drop from ReCurrent, a podcast from the Getty that explores how art, history, and culture shape the world around us.

In this episode of ReCurrent, host Jaime Roque takes us back to 1980s Los Angeles, when civil wars in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Nicaragua sent hundreds of thousands of people north and helped turn LA into “Little Central America.” With professor and longtime participant Rubén Martínez as our guide—someone who lived through this moment firsthand—we follow the Sanctuary Movement as churches quietly, and then publicly, open their doors to refugees the U.S. refused to recognize. Sanctuary meant food and a place to sleep, but it also meant music, theater, poetry, and posters that challenged U.S. policy while helping people process their grief.

From there, we step inside Echo Park United Methodist Church, where artist and performer Elia Arce and a circle of Central American poets, musicians, and organizers transform the basement into a cultural home. We also sit with Rev. David Farley, pastor emeritus of Echo Park United Methodist, who was there to witness it all. Upstairs, families try to stay invisible on classroom floors; downstairs, performances inspired by banned writers, songs from back home, and handmade banners turn fear and exile into shared story.

Our last stop is the Getty Research Institute, where researcher Jasmine Magaña—a Salvadoran Angeleno herself—is helping build a new, expansive record of this era. 

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Perfection is overrated.

In this episode of Immigrantly, Saadia Khan sits down with Iranian-American podcaster Sheila Kazan (Small Talk with Sheila) to talk rom-com heroines, immigrant identity, the truth about Iran beyond headlines, and why your next pivot might be your best move.

They explore:

It's smart, funny, and refreshingly honest.

Listen now.

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When Bad Bunny takes the stage in Spanish, millions celebrate.

But for many Puerto Ricans, it lands as something deeper: visibility, resistance, and a reminder of a history the United States still struggles to face.

In this episode of Immigrantly, Saadia Khan sits down with Becca Ramos, creator of Welcome to El Barrio, (new episodes release every Tuesday) to discuss colonialism, diaspora, and the complicated politics of calling yourself Puerto Rican—not Puerto Rican American.

Becca shares what it meant to grow up Afro-Latina in Texas, feeling too Black in some rooms, not Latino enough in others, and how that tension pushed her to build a platform for her community. The discussion unpacks Puerto Rico’s territorial status, the myth of assimilation, the stereotypes that haunt Latino identity in U.S. media, and why joy itself can be a political act.

This episode is about who gets ownership over history, language, and home.

And what happens when people decide to define those things for themselves?

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What does migration do to the heart, not just the body?

In this deeply intimate conversation, award-winning writer Reyna Grande joins host Saadia Khan to discuss her latest book, Migrant Heart, her undocumented childhood, language loss, family trauma, and the emotional inheritance of migration. Reyna reflects on shame, resilience, motherhood, and how writing became a way to release what she once carried silently.

The episode explores the hidden emotional costs of immigration, love, identity, belonging, and healing beyond borders, paperwork, and politics.

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In this reflection episode of Borderly, host and journalist Mario Carrillo returns to the U.S.–Mexico border that shaped his life to ask what the border really is and what it has asked of those who live with it.

Through deeply personal stories, Mario reflects on proposing to his wife while overlooking Ciudad Juárez, navigating a nearly seven-year immigration process, and crossing the border together for her final visa interview after decades of separation from her country of birth. He recounts the fear, uncertainty, and cruelty of the immigration system, alongside the hope and belonging that continue to exist at the border every day.

 This episode is an invitation to slow down, resist flattening the border into myth or argument, and listen more carefully to the people and places we think we already understand.

Borderly is a project of Immigrantly.

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In the final episode of Borderly, host Mario Carrillo turns to the people who carry the border’s weight long after headlines fade. From immigration law to community care, this conversation centers on what it means to show up with dignity when systems fail, and lives hang in the balance.

Mario sits down with Melissa M. López, Executive Director of Estrella del Paso, to explore what welcoming people with dignity looks like in practice, not as policy, but as daily work. They reflect on growing up in El Paso, the emotional toll of immigration advocacy, the lasting impact of family separation, and why border communities are so often asked to absorb the consequences of decisions made far away.

As Borderly comes to a close, this episode brings the series full circle, returning to El Paso not as a symbol, but as a real place shaped by care, resilience, and responsibility. Wherever borders exist, people quietly hold communities together. This is their story.

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In the first two episodes of Borderly, we explored the history, journalism, and lived realities of El Paso and Ciudad Juárez. In Episode 3, we turn to art as memory, resistance, and belonging.

Host Mario Carrillo sits down with Patrick Gabaldon, an El Paso–born artist and public defender whose vibrant work reshapes how the border is seen, felt, and remembered. From cactus portraits and desert color palettes to murals at the El Paso airport, Patrick’s art challenges the flat, fear-driven narratives often attached to border cities.

They talk about growing up on the border, leaving and finding their way back, and why El Paso’s art scene is one of the most powerful and underrated cultural forces in the country. Patrick shares family stories that blur history and folklore, reflects on how law and art intersect in his life, and explains why blooming brightly in a desert landscape is a political act.

This episode is about place, pride, and the creative pulse of a city that refuses to be reduced to headlines. It’s an invitation to look closer at El Paso, at the border, and at the art that records its truth.

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This episode is about how a place learns to remember itself.

Journalist Bob Moore has spent nearly four decades reporting from El Paso, witnessing the border's evolution through policy shifts, political cycles, tragedy, and resilience. In conversation with host Mario Carrillo, he reflects on what it means to tell the story of a border city over time, not as a headline, but as a lived reality.

The discussion moves from El Paso in the 1980s, when crossing was fluid and routine, through the rise of border enforcement, post-9/11 security, family separation, and the ways national immigration debates have repeatedly landed on local communities. Moore speaks candidly about the role of local journalism, the responsibility of reporting on your own neighbors, carrying grief, and staying after the cameras leave.

August 3, 2019, is part of this story. The conversation places that day within a longer arc, one shaped by language, fear, political power, and the quiet work of people who insist on documenting what really happened and why it matters.

This episode examines El Paso not as a symbol but as a city: complex, welcoming, strained, resilient. A place that refuses to be reduced.

Caution: This episode includes discussion of mass violence, hate crimes, and immigration-related trauma. No graphic details are described.

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This is Part One of Borderly, a limited series by Immigrantly exploring life on the U.S.–Mexico border through history, memory, and lived experience.

Before walls, patrols, or policy debates, there was a river. In this opening episode, host Mario Carrillo returns to El Paso to examine how the border came into existence and what was lost when a line was drawn through land, families, and identity.

The episode traces the border’s origins from the Rio Grande as a shared lifeline for Indigenous communities, through colonization, war, and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Mario reflects on growing up crossing the border freely, leaving El Paso, and what it meant to come back.

The episode also features historian Yolanda Chávez Leyva, who shares her border story and decades of research on the El Paso–Juárez region. Her work reveals how revolution, migration, labor, and racial hierarchies shaped the area, and how cruelty and generosity have coexisted here for generations.

This episode lays the foundation for the series: the border not as a country's edge, but as a place with its own center, history, and meaning.

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As the year comes to a close, Immigrantly host Saadia Khan reflects on belonging, faith, and identity without assimilation.

In this solo year-end episode, Saadia shares why she doesn’t celebrate Christmas, having grown up in Pakistan surrounded by nearly three million Christians who do, and how witnessing joy across difference has shaped her understanding of respect, pluralism, and belonging. She reflects on holding on to her Muslim identity on her own terms, without turning it into an assimilation exercise.

Saadia also looks back on an unexpected but transformative 2025 for Immigrantly Media: launching the Love-ly relationships podcast with Mehak, producing over 200 episodes across the network, and building an app that emerged organically from her own immigrant experience of self-censorship and identity editing.

Looking ahead to 2026 with cautious optimism, she previews what’s next, including Bitefully, a new food podcast with MasterChef winner Claudia Sandoval, and Borderly, a four-part Immigrantly series centered on human stories from the U.S.–Mexico border.

This episode is both a reflection and a thank-you to the community that makes Immigrantly possible—and an invitation to end the year by holding on to the parts of ourselves we were once told to edit.

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Host & Producer: Saadia Khan I Content Writer: Saadia Khan I Editorial review: Shei Yu I Sound Designer & Editor: Lou Raskin I Immigrantly Theme Music: Simon Hutchinson | Other Music: Epidemic Sound

The episode also highlights music by the famous Kashmiri Musician Ghulam Nabi Sheikh and other Kashmiri musicians

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