On the season 2 finale the Chattin' with Kobéy podcast,

Kobéy follows up with his friend and higher education professional Jason Howell Jr. on the importance of self-improvement as Black men. Hear their perspective on embracing their fears, accepting their roles as leaders even when they don't want to, how they deal with people who are unwelcoming to them, and why LeBron James is an inspiration to them both.