Kaley and Larissa discuss Kaley’s nightmarish experience doing drag in a conservative night club, Larissa plugs the show traveling drag makeover show, We’re Here, and Larissa decides they would prefer to be a Queen. They read listener write-ins about dating red flags, and they fantasize about which archetype of Queer they would be if they could choose (Larissa wants to be a nonchalant athlete, if you even care.) They get into gay pop-culture of the week, focusing on Pornhub Sapphic, Fightmaster’s debut album, Tolerance, and the Towa Bird/Katy O’Brian music video. They end the episode with the game, "Two Truths and a Lie," as well as "Two Lies and a Truth" because Kaley messed up. 

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Fact Checks & Mentions:

We’re Here - Larissa's Show Recommendation We're Here is an HBO reality television series featuring former Drag Race contestants, documenting the drag queens as they travel across the United States.

Pornhub Sapphic Announcement - Out.com Article

Music Video for "Dog" by Towa Bird, Starring Katy O’Brian

This week Kaley and Larissa talk neurodivergence, Dyke Day, and the Patti Gonia vs Patagonia lawsuit. Listeners write in about their favorite part about being gay (shoutout Grace’s college friend Ivy!), and the gays play a new game called “One Gay Syllable.”

If you’re in Los Angeles, catch Indiana Wilson’s one woman Fringe show, “Sister Bernadette Runs the Light,” assistant produced by Larissa. Only one show with tickets remains on Mon June 22— grab them before they sell out! Link for tickets here.

You can also catch the new monthly variety show Kaley is producing at the Pack Theatre, called “My Next Guest.” Next show is June 25th! Link for tickets here.

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Fact Check and Mentions

Reptile specialist mention: Bott Reptiles is based out of Torrance, CA. They focus on education, rehabilitation, and custom enclosures. @bott.reptiles 

Pattie Gonia Lawsuit: Outdoor apparel company Patagonia is suing drag queen and climate activist Pattie Gonia for $1 stating “consumer confusion” as well as “irreparable damage” to the brand. Wyn Wiley, performing as Pattie Gonia, said that the firm was threatening “the erasure of my name, advocacy, my community.”  

Dyke Day LA: Dyke Day 2026 in Los Angeles is Saturday, June 13th at Sycamore Grove Park.

This week the gays recount Kaley’s recent trip to Sun City AKA “Old White People Heaven,” where she shot multiple guns, they also discover Larissa’s relaxed tongue along with their even and reasonable nipples. They discuss the queers of Cannes, Hannah Einbinder and the Hacks kiss, Dakota Johnson poorly queer-bating and the glorious dub that hockey wives Marie-Philip Poulin and Laura Stacey took in Montreal. Listeners write-in about dating red flags, they reminisce when Kaley dated an Oklahoma girl and they end the episode with a hilarious game of This, or That?

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Fact Check and Mentions

Texas Law Repealing Gun Safety

As of 2021, people who qualify under the law can carry a handgun in a public place in Texas without a license to carry.

https://guides.sll.texas.gov/gun-laws/carry-of-firearms

Cannes 

A French film festival pronounced in English like “Can” or in French like “Kahn.”

https://youglish.com/pronounce/cannes_film_festival/english

Indiana’s Trivia is at Pizzana in Marina Del Rey Tuesday’s at 7:30pm

Teenage Sex and Death at Miasma

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt35298123/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Laraine Newman is an American actress and comedian and a founding member of The Groundlings. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laraine_Newman

Varety 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32261958/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

The movie Kaley was referring to with Dakota Johnson is Am I OK?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11225626/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

It’s not Dakota Johnson in the movie, Happiest Season, it’s Mackenzie Davis.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8522006/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Marie-Philip Poulin and Laura Stacey

“The Montreal Victoire won their first Professional Women’s Hockey League title in a moment made more special for Marie-Philip Poulin and Laura Stacey, who celebrated the championship not only as teammates, but as wives sharing the victory together on the ice.”

https://people.com/married-teammates-marie-philip-poulin-laura-stacey-hug-after-winning-pwhl-championship-together-11981760

The Taylor Swift album that Kaley and Larissa were referring to is Fearless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fearless_(Taylor_Swift_album)

Kaley and Larissa catch up on life... Larissa recounts being flamed by a gay man after giving him fashion advice, Kaley describes traveling to Baltimore and feeling like a silly LA b*tch, and Lars experienced their first influencer event as a non-influencer.

Larissa shares their guilty pleasure show XO Kitty, and they discuss Lola Tung's upcoming role as a queer soccer player in the sapphic soccer film Ripe!

The gays top off the episode with listner write ins answering "What's the Gayest Thing About You?" and play a game of "Build a Queer: Summer Edition."

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Fact Check and Mentions:

• Larissa's Show Recommendation: XO, Kitty

• Lola Tung set to star in sapphic soccer film Ripe!

• Astigmatism Definition

This week Kaley and Larissa discuss the difference between how Tauruses and Capricorns celebrate their birthdays. They wonder what collagen could possibly be, if Beanie Feldstein is naming her baby Beanie Baby, and whether or not Kaley’s mom has "Gay Face." Larissa finds out Kaley was homeschooled and they finish off the episode with a brand new game, ScattaGAYries.

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Fact Check and Mentions:

Collagen (definition) - Collagen is the most abundant protein in the human body, making up about 30% of its total protein. It acts as a primary building block, providing structure, strength, and elasticity to skin, bones, muscles, tendons, ligaments, and other connective tissues

Correction: Beanie Feldstein and Bonnie Chance-Roberts are married, Kaley said they are partners but to be more specific, they’re wives.

Larissa’s uncle’s Instagram handle: @Michaeldowling440

Ice Princess - is a 2005 American teen sports comedy-drama film directed by Tim Fywell, written by Hadley Davis from a story by Princess Diaries creator Meg Cabot and Davis. It stars Joan Cusack, Kim Cattrall, Michelle Trachtenberg and Hayden Panettiere.

Kaley and Larissa cover topics like mutually slapping your friends, O.C.D. therapy, Kaley's second altercation at work and her first time being called a slur, working in the service industry, and their last installment of listener write-ins on what made them gay.

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Fact Check and Mentions

The OCD therapy program Larissa mentioned: NOCD

For more information on how Tourette Syndrom and OCD are distinct diagnoses that frequently co-occur and share overlapping symptoms, click here.

Charlie Covell is developing a TV series at Amazon MGM Studios based on Kate Moennig and Leisha Hailey's book, So Gay for You.

Claim that Blue Bottle Coffee is owned by Nestle--

• In March 2026, Centurium Capital reached an agreement with Nestle to acquire Blue Bottle Coffee.
• Blue Bottle is not a small business.

General Electric is known as "GE," not "G&E."

Checking Kaley's example of Costco as an "evil" corporation--

• Costco is widely considered one of the more ethical major retailers, frequently praised for high employee wages (often $20+ per hour as of 2026), comprehensive benefits, and a strong code of ethics.
  

Transubstantiation:
according to Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox dogma the bread and wine, at their consecration, become the body and blood of Christ while keeping only the appearances of bread and wine.

Glennon Doyle is currently married to retired professional soccer player, Abby Wambach.

Bechdel Test and Kinsey Scale confusion:

• The Bechdel test also known as the Bechdel–Wallace test, is a measure of the representation of women in film and other fiction.
• The Kinsey Scale, or Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale, is a 7-point system (0 to 6) created by Alfred Kinsey in the 1940s to measure sexual orientation as a fluid spectrum rather than a binary.

This week on the pod, Larissa and Kaley cover hot button topics, like Indie's Rachel Zegler obsession, anniversary gift protocol, Larissa crying at work, the funny things our parents do, and P!nk hosting the Tony's. (Kaley totally knows who P!nk is.)

Listeners write in to tell us what made them gay, Kaley almost loses the cat, and the gays play "Name That Tune: Queer Edition." It goes... well?

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Fact Check and Mentions

Check out Kaley's brother Kovi Vetter's music, they are going on tour this summer!

Salvinorin-A Music and Tour Dates

P!nk will be hosting the 2026 Tony Awards. They are not a confirmed member of the LGBTQ+ community but are a staunch ally.

• https://share.google/tmjLe1weylo6BRywn

Emily and Maya Kiss Scene in Pretty Little Liars

Season 1, Episode 8 - "Please, Do Talk About Me When I'm Gone"

https://youtu.be/ndku0y4uqxE?si=aU5a-uWxdEx9Zwoe

Troye Sivan "One of Your Girls" Music Video

https://youtu.be/ZhGl8McrOHo?si=eYFmD-2Ssjv1LuI4

Kaley catches Larissa up on her first physical altercation at work and Larissa discusses rude TikTokers and their summer rash guard conundrum. Listeners write in to tell us what made them gay, Kaley recommends the new Netflix show How to Get to Heaven From Belfast, and Larissa mourns the cancellation of their favorite reality show, I Kissed a Girl. The gays end the episode with hot takes and a rousing game of True or False, in which we learn Joan Jett once hit on a member of Kaley’s family and Larissa still does not know who Tig Notaro is.

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Fact Check and Mentions

Listener write-in mentions an image from a 2009 production of Twelfth Night at The Public Theatre, starring Anne Hathaway, Audra McDonald, and Raul Esparza.

• https://playbill.com/article/hathaway-mcdonald-white-and-esparza-open-twelfth-night-in-central-park-june-25-com-162165
• The Image - https://i.redd.it/6zemh9urm4va1.jpg

Kaley's TV Recommendation - How to Get to Heaven From Belfast

• https://www.netflix.com/title/81758849?source=35&fromWatch=true

Actor Caoilfhionn Dunne (pronounced KEEL-in Dun)

• https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3556036/

Larissa's TV Recommendation - I Kissed a Girl

• https://www.hulu.com/series/b685ed93-7cd7-48dd-93ab-cd9c21094b12

True or False Game Fact Check

• https://www.hrc.org/our-work/stories/the-journey-to-marriage-equality-in-the-united-states
• https://www.apa.org/about/policy/discrimination
• The New York Metro has the highest population (not concentration or percentage) of LGBTQ+ people, as of 2021. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/MSA-LGBT-Ranking-Mar-2021.pdf
• http://outhistory.org/exhibits/show/queer-youth-campus-media/media/vice-versa-the-first-lesbian-m
• https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34697690/
• https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/06/28/for-pride-month-6-facts-about-bisexual-americans/
• https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/08/08/gay-marriage-around-the-world-2013/
• https://www.them.us/story/what-is-the-hanky-code-gay-flagging#:~:text=Flagging%2C%20also%20known%20as%20the,queer%20people%20your%20sexual%20preferences.

Kaley and Larissa discuss the Milan Olympics, their theatre-kid past lives, and living in a red state as a queer person. In "Why Would You Ever Say That?" they consider the importance of theatre education in developing (& destroying) young egos, and they finish the episode with a particularly devastating game of trivia. Once called The Ego Episode, now called The Humility Episode... we hope you enjoy and Turn a Friend Gay Today!

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Fact Check and Mentions

Amber Glenn is the first openly LGBTQ+ woman to compete for the U.S. at the Winter Olympics in Womens Singles, and the first out LGBTQ+ woman to win a gold medal for the U.S.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Glenn#:~:text=%5B2%5D%20Upon%20her%20selection%20for,in%20Olympic%20singles%20figure%20skating.

Alysa Liu

At the 2026 Winter Olympics in Milano Cortina, Alysa Liu won two gold medals: one in the women's individual figure skating event and one in the team event.

https://www.olympics.com/en/milano-cortina-2026/results/athlete-details/24749

Tig Notaro's Documentary Tig (2015), Available on Netflix. Tig is a stand up comedian, actor, producer, and podcaster. Wife to Stephanie Allynne.

https://www.netflix.com/title/80028208

Stephanie Allynne - Actor, director, writer, producer, improv comic. Wife to Tig Notaro.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2782402/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk

Fact Check: Kaley did not come out in 2022, she came out in 2019. For the record!

This week Kaley and Larissa catch up on life, the Natasha Lyonne and Janicza Bravo kiss, a listener write-in on the topic of queer "stolen valor," a personal game of "Never Have I Ever," and more.

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Fact Checking and References:

Link to @godimsuchadyke 's repost of Natasha Lyonne's post, picturing Lyonne and Janicza Bravo kissing, and Natasha's comment in response. ⁠https://www.instagram.com/p/DVPhTFzjmQI/?img_index=4&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==⁠

Vice Video that Larissa References:

"LGBTQ+ Community Debates the Meaning of "Queer", Military Bans, & More" Part 1 and 2 

⁠https://youtu.be/utW1ItcMeJw⁠

⁠https://youtu.be/safLwed9SSo⁠ 

Kaley's published photo, special thanks to Blake Cooper Griffin

People - https://people.com/star-tracks-sunday-march-1-2026-new-celebrity-photos-updated-daily-11916800

Fact Check: Mark Getty founded Getty Images and is the grandson of J. Paul Getty, oil tycoon and art collector, who founded the J. Paul Getty Museum. Getty Images is a separate business entity from the museum and trust.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlenzner/2012/08/17/getty-images-a-wondrous-wealth-creation-vehicle/