In Between Futures

The economy can feel like something that simply happens to us. But the rules of business were designed by people – and that means they can be redesigned.In this episode of In Between Futures, we sit down with Sarah Schwimmer, most recently Co-Lead Executive and Head of External Affairs at B Lab, the nonprofit behind the global B Corp movement. Twenty years ago, the idea that companies should be accountable to workers, communities and the planet, as well as shareholders, was still treated as radical. Today, more than 10,000 companies around the world have met B Corp standards.Sarah argues that better business is not an economic impossibility, but a question of the choices we make.We also cover:

• How to tell genuine business transformation from greenwashing – and why staying silent about progress can be problematic
• What needs to change if business is to put people and planet alongside profit
• Why board seats for employees, community veto rights and employee ownership belong at the centre of the conversation
• The one change Sarah would make: reclaiming our agency to dream up, and design, a different economy

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The world is on track to overshoot 1.5°C, potentially reaching 1.8°C or higher. For a doctor who has spent her career in disaster zones, those numbers translate into real consequences for people’s lives.In this episode, Christa Beck sits down with Dr. Jemilah Mahmood, an internationally renowned physician, humanitarian, and Executive Director of the Sunway Centre for Planetary Health, at Impact Week in Singapore. Jemilah left humanitarian work because responding to one crisis after another wasn't fixing what caused them. Now she's co-designing the Global Tipping Points Conference in Kuala Lumpur, betting that positive tipping points can be just as unstoppable as the ones pushing us toward collapse.We also cover:

• Why health workers, among the most trusted people in the world, may be climate's most underused advocates
• How Asia produces many of the world's positive tipping points while the science behind them is still little known there
• Why preparing for a warmer world means rethinking how we live with nature
• The one change Jemilah would make tomorrow, and why it starts with the age of the people in charge

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Climate experts have spent decades getting the evidence right, but many still can't explain their work at their own dinner table. Better information was supposed to move the world. Instead, it’s built an echo chamber.In this episode, Christa Beck and Seth Armstrong-Twigg are joined by Leo Horn-Phathanothai, founder of Bangkok Climate Action Week. After more than 20 years working in climate policy and research, Leo began questioning whether better information alone was enough to drive change. His answer is radical inclusion – or, creating space for artists, youth, indigenous leaders and others outside the traditional climate bubble to reclaim their agency and an active role in the movement. We also cover:

• Why the region’s young population creates a powerful opportunity for people-powered climate action
• How one energy expert had his first climate conversation with his family in 20 years, through his wife's art collective and his son's school
• Why Southeast Asia's energy transition is moving forward on pure economics while global headlines report a retreat
• How Bangkok Climate Action Week connects grassroots climate action with the World Bank and IMF meetings

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Welcome to In Between Futures, a podcast from Climate KIC. Hosts Seth Armstrong Twigg and Christa Beck speak with the leaders, innovators and system builders shaping a just, climate-resilient future, from cities and industry to finance and food.

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After a long stretch of silence, we’re back with a new name, new hosts and a new direction.Welcome to In Between Futures, a podcast from Climate KIC about the people turning possible futures into real ones.Seth Armstrong Twigg and Christa Beck will speak with the people transforming the systems that shape our lives — from cities and industry to finance and food. We’ll ask what’s working, what’s getting in the way, and what it takes to create a just, climate-resilient and beautiful future for all.

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In this season of the podcast, we’re asking: How Could We? Transform our food systems so they nourish people and regenerate our planetary systems.Host Anne-Sophie Garrigou is joined this week by farmer Sheila Darmos from the southern Peloponnese in Greece. Sheila inherited one of Greece's first organic farms - The Southern Lights Farm - and completely reinvented it.Anne-Sophie is also joined on this episode by Climate KIC’s Laurène Lebelt, who is working on HarvRESt, an EU-funded project testing ways to integrate renewable energy sources into farms.In this episode, Sheila talks about why she returned to Greece after many years away, how her farm helps tackle ‘ecological and social desertification’ occurring across the Mediterranean, how her farm performs is also an educational site offering community living and why she was keen to create networks connecting regenerative farmers across Greece and Europe.Laurène outlines what integrated landscape management means, how solar panels, wind turbines, or biogas systems can reshape farming landscapes, diversify farmer incomes, and connect food production with energy transition as well as the importance of bringing diverse stakeholders together, such as farmers, conservationists, energy developers, government and community members.—This episode was presented and produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Anne-Sophie Garrigou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and co-produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bárbara Mendes-Jorge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Climate KIC is Europe’s leading climate innovation agency and community. We are here to help create climate-resilient societies and fight the climate breakdown, building better futures for local communities, globally. Check out our website and follow us on LinkedIn. You can also see how we are supporting farmers’ food futures, find out how to attend the 3rd European Carbon Farming Summit - taking place in Padua, Italy from 17-19 March 2026 - and check out our Green Horizons network dedicated to sustainable agriculture and knowledge exchange.

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In this season of the podcast, we’re asking: How Could We? Transform our food systems so they nourish people and regenerate our planetary systems.Host Anne-Sophie Garrigou is joined this week by Michelle Donnelly, a farmer from the Mulroy Meadow Farm in Donegal, Ireland. Michelle and her husband Cathal moved to Donegal in 2020 to pursue their dream of running a regenerative farm, which currently produces pasture-raised eggs, forest-raised traditional breed pork, and grass-fed beef. Mulroy Meadow Farm also offers farm tours and educational programmes.Anne-Sophie is also joined on this episode by Stewart Gee, who works on Climate KIC’s Irish Deep Demonstration, a project that aims to help Ireland achieve a climate-neutral food system by 2050.In this episode, Michelle talks about her journey from being a pharmacist to becoming a farmer, why regenerative agriculture is so important to her - especially from a health and community perspective - as well as the barriers and opportunities provided by regenerative agriculture.Stewart discusses the enabling conditions and policies needed to scale up regenerative agriculture at the regional and national level in Ireland and what lessons learned in Ireland could inspire regenerative agriculture practices elsewhere.—This episode was presented and produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Anne-Sophie Garrigou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and co-produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bárbara Mendes-Jorge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Climate KIC is Europe’s leading climate innovation agency and community. We are here to help create climate-resilient societies and fight the climate breakdown, building better futures for local communities, globally. Check out our website and follow us on LinkedIn. You can also see how we are supporting farmers’ food futures, find out how to attend the 3rd European Carbon Farming Summit - taking place in Padua, Italy from 17-19 March 2026 - and check out our Green Horizons network dedicated to sustainable agriculture and knowledge exchange.

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Welcome to a new season of the podcast, where we’re asking: How Could We? Transform our food systems so they nourish people and regenerate our planetary systems.In this food-focused season, we’re looking at a range of topics, including soil health, regenerative agriculture practices, integrated landscape management, the importance of justice and equity in this transition, enabling policies and the cultural dimension of food transformation.  We’re meeing farmers, researchers, and innovators who are pioneering regenerative approaches, transforming how we eat and how we relate to our planet.  This week, host Anne-Sophie Garrigou interviews Saskia Keesstra, a soil expert from Climate KIC, who has spent years working at the intersection of soil science, farming practices, and climate policy. Saskia discusses how healthy soil does much more than grow our food, why it is one of our most powerful allies in the fight against climate change and hear about how farmers in our network are pioneering soil regeneration practices that could transform farming and our food system.—This episode was presented and produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Anne-Sophie Garrigou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and co-produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bárbara Mendes-Jorge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Climate KIC is Europe’s leading climate innovation agency and community. We are here to help create climate-resilient societies and fight the climate breakdown, building better futures for local communities, globally. Check out our website and follow us on LinkedIn. 
You can also see how we are supporting farmers’ food futures, find out how to attend the 3rd European Carbon Farming Summit - taking place in Padua, Italy from 17-19 March 2026 - and check out our Green Horizons network dedicated to sustainable agriculture and knowledge exchange.

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Welcome to a new season of the podcast, where we’ll be asking: How Could We? Transform our food systems so they nourish people and regenerate our planetary systems.With our food-focused guests, we'll explore how food shapes our planet, our health, our culture and what systemic shifts across soil, diets, and landscapes could unlock regenerative futures.We’re looking at a range of topics, including soil health, regenerative agriculture practices, integrated landscape management, the importance of justice and equity in this transition, enabling policies and the cultural dimension of food transformation.  Join us as we meet the farmers, researchers, and innovators who are pioneering regenerative approaches, transforming how we eat and how we relate to our planet.  —This trailer was presented and produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Anne-Sophie Garrigou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and co-produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bárbara Mendes-Jorge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Climate KIC is Europe’s leading climate innovation agency and community. We are here to help create climate-resilient societies and fight the climate breakdown, building better futures for local communities, globally.
Check out our website and follow us on LinkedIn. You can also see how we are supporting farmers’ food futures, find out how to attend the 3rd European Carbon Farming Summit - taking place in Padua, Italy from 17-19 March 2026 - and check out our Green Horizons network dedicated to sustainable agriculture and knowledge exchange.

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Recorded live at the SB62 June Climate meeting in Bonn - a key conference in the lead up to the upcoming United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) COP30 in Brazil - this week’s episode sees host Anne-Sophie Garrigou interview more experts at the heart of negotiations to hear what we can expect from Brazil's COP30 presidency and the challenges that lie ahead. Firstly, climate policy researcher Lina Yassin from the International Institute for Environmental Development outlines the Global Goal on Adaptation and explains why tripling adaptation finance by 2030 is literally a matter of life and death for communities facing climate disasters. Anne-Sophie talks to Glindys Virginia Luciano, International & Strategic Relations Project Manager at EIT Food, about how food systems are gaining traction as a cross-cutting solution and how she hopes that ​​spaces for multiple stakeholders to have discussions will be created at COP30.Finally, Dr. Sanjay Vashist, Director at Climate Action Network South Asia raises important questions about climate finance commitments and the true meaning of "just transition" – particularly the difference between asking rich nations to scale back their emissions versus expecting developing countries to abandon their development aspirations. If you're interested in hearing about COP30 from us in the next months, subscribe to Climate KIC's COP30 mailing list.—This episode was presented and produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Anne-Sophie Garrigou⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and co-produced by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Bárbara Mendes-Jorge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.Climate KIC is Europe’s leading climate innovation agency and community. We are here to help create climate-resilient societies and fight the climate breakdown, building better futures for local communities, globally.Check out our website, register to Climate KIC’s COP30 mailing list, follow us on LinkedIn and subscribe to our newsletter. 


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