On Land-Grant Holy Land In Conversation, we talk to people in and around Ohio State athletics, and the sporting world at large, to bring you a different insight and perspective to the teams, athletes, and university that you love.

On today's episode, Matt is in conversation with Cleveland.com columnist Doug Lesmerises. Matt and Doug talk about his new book, “The Road to Ohio State” about the recruiting journeys of some of OSU’s biggest names from the past five or so decades. He talks to the likes of Ryan Shazier, Keith Byars, James Laurinaitis, Cam Heyward, TreVeyon Henderson, a ton of coaches, and more.

They also discuss the 2021 Buckeyes, what Doug thinks about the possibility of young guys getting early opportunities, what the team needs to do to get over the national championship hump, and most importantly, what he thinks of Ryan Day shaving his off-season beard.

Connect with Doug Lesmerises

Twitter: @DougLesmerises

Pre-Order "The Road to Ohio State": buff.ly/3iWgWaT

Buckeye Talk Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/buckeye-talk-ohio-state-podcast-by-cleveland-com/id1140300048

The College Football Playoff Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-football-playoff-show/id1570898032

Connect with Matt Tamanini

Twitter: @BWWMatt

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