Andy Harmer Managing Director at CLIA UK & Ireland talks to Avalon Waterways UK Sales Director Phil Shipman. Phil joined the cruise industry eight months ago, bringing decades of experience in the travel industry and tells Andy what it’s been like getting to know Avalon Waterways and learning about what river cruising has to offer. Having attended his first river conference earlier this year Phil also tells us why he found it such a useful event for the industry and also what sets Avalon Waterways apart and variations amongst the fleet. We also have an Avalon ship tour on cruising.org very soon! With a brand-new sales team launching including Ryan and Karen there’s lots of opportunities to speak to the team.