Nayab Gohar Jan is a social activist, leftist and one of the organizers of Aurat March Lahore. She has recently joined PPP.   Dr. Minahil Asim is an Assistant Professor of Education Leadership and Program Evaluation at the University of Ottawa. She studies education reforms and policies that are focused on improving learning outcomes and educational trajectories for disadvantaged students.  Preh Memon is a content creator and a writer; she has a keen eye on the social issues of Pakistan and often writes about them.   The four of us get together for a discussion on why political reform is difficult in Pakistan.  The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience                And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience                The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.                                  Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89         Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 3:15 Why did Nayab join PPP? 6:00 Why PPP has lacked in Implementation? 9:00 PPP; Feudalism and rural politics 13:00 Perception of PPP/PMLN and Bureaucracy in Punjab 23:00 Why do you see more development in Punjab? 34:00 Sindh and PPP's performance 44:00 Local Government and Political Will 48:00 Why Political Reforms are difficult 1:13:00 Establishment impeding political reform 1:19:00 Evolution vs Revolution; is gradual progress worth sacrificing ideals? 1:30:00 Debates within the party? Is it a one man rule? 1:38:30 Overseas Pakistanis  1:44:00 Degrading National Discourse and Misogyny 2:08:30 Trauma of growing up in the 90s in Pakistan