What started as a podcast invitation turned into a joy-fuelled deep dive into life’s little pleasures — from marshmallow-soft duvets to musicals, Zumba, and swishy skirts with pockets.

In this episode, I’m joined by Natalie Barton, Propertymark’s Digital Communities & Marketing Officer and the creator of Nat’s Happy List — a growing catalogue of over 100 things that bring her joy (which now even has its own Instagram account: @nats_happy_list).

We talk about the beauty of small joys, the science behind happiness, the highs and horrors of dancing in public, and what it really means to feel seen — at home, at work, and online.

If you’ve been needing a reminder that joy doesn’t always come with fireworks, this is your episode.