The podcast is presented by Stefanie Barschdorf and Simon Zagorski-Thomas. The production team were Stefanie Barschdorf, Maciej Kierzkowski, Luiz Mouro, Dan Pratt, Ashley Stein and Simon Zagorski-Thomas. Our guests on this episode are Maarika Autio, a PhD candidate at the University of the Arts, Sibelius Academy, Finland, Michael MacDonald from McEwan University, Edmonton, Alberta in Canada and Sarah Angliss, an Ivor Novello Award winning composer and sound designer working at the Augmented Instruments Lab at the Dyson School of Design Engineering, Imperial College London . They all talk about their relationship with practice research. Maarika talks about using her performance on balafon and electronics to explore ideas of cultural appropriation and creativity. Michael discusses his ideas for a 21st century Relational Camerata which will be a joint project with the research centre developing a contemporary version of the 16th century Florentine Camerata. Sarah was one of the ten participants in the C21MP Townshend Studio Research Challenge where they explored Pete Townshend's extraordinary collection of vintage and contemporary electronic musical instruments housed at the University of West London. The website presents videos from the Townshend Studio Research Challenge, one about Maarika's practice research and by Michael explaining some of the details about the plans for the Relational Camerata.