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Sending your employee to "last chance" coaching before firing them almost never works — it's just money spent
staying out of court!
Why does leadership feel so lonely at the top? This conversation unpacks what coaching really is, why some
people can't be coached, the difference between feedback and opinions, and why most of us are far less self-
aware than we think.
We discussed:
◼ Why "last chance" coaching seldom if ever actually works
◼ How one conversation sparked a coaching certification that same night
◼ Why most people are far less self-aware than they think
◼ How often you should actually retake a personality test
◼ Why everyone calling themselves a coach is a real problem
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:13 Have You Fired an Uncoachable Client?
00:08:55 How One Session Changed Everything
00:12:46 Why Is Leadership So Lonely?
00:19:15 Fact or Fiction: Can Anyone Be Coached?
00:23:06 Are Personality Tests Overrated?
00:31:13 What Should Coaching Get Rid Of?
Host: Liz Mbwambo
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizmbwambo/
Upwynn Marketing: https://www.linkedin.com/company/upwynnmarketing/home/
Guest: Leslie Mizerak
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesliemizerak/
Get Courageous Coaching: https://getcourageous.com
Find us
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@upwynnmarketing
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5DUWTbrFbbyWDEgq4VbqMz
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-other-peoples-business/id6818793731
Want to be our next guest? Email ______________ with your information.
A prettier logo won't fix the fact that nobody knows why they should choose you!
Why rebrands can't fix positioning, why more content rarely means more growth, and why your website may soon market to bots. Plus: reports that answer questions, campaigns that need constant care, and when walking away from a client is right.
We discussed:
◼ Why a 37-page report still can't tell you if marketing works
◼ Why three strategic posts beat posting every single day
◼ How a 20-year-old holiday ad saves a brand its budget
◼ The ninety-day handover plan that finished in just four weeks
◼ Why doubling your ad spend won't double your phone calls
00:00:00 Intro
00:03:30 From Teacher to Accidental Marketer
00:07:00 Why Go Back to Agency Life?
00:13:00 A 90-Day Plan Done in 4 Weeks
00:21:00 What Is KPI Infrastructure, Really?
00:25:00 Does Posting Every Day Actually Work?
00:27:30 Can a Rebrand Fix Positioning?
00:32:00 Is SEO Dead or Just Changed?
00:37:00 Should Winning Campaigns Run Forever?
00:40:00 When Should You Fire a Client?
00:43:00 The Volume Fad That Wastes Budgets
00:45:30 Never the Smartest in the Room
00:49:00 Overrated or Underrated?
00:51:00 Kill Random Acts of Marketing
️ Host: Liz Mbwambo
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizmbwambo/
Upwynn Marketing: https://www.linkedin.com/company/upwynnmarketing/home/
🎧 Find us
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@upwynnmarketing
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5DUWTbrFbbyWDEgq4VbqMz
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-other-peoples-business/id6818793731
Many qualified candidates aren't applying to job posts — so posting and hoping could be costing you your best hire!
Why growing businesses hire backwards, why 20–30% agency fees hurt small companies, how AI is flooding hiring with fake candidates and recruiters, and the overlooked red flags that separate a quick fill from a long-term hire.
We discussed:
◼ Why posting a job and hoping is your biggest hiring mistake
◼ The 20–30% agency fee that quietly drains growing businesses
◼ How AI is creating fake candidates, companies, and recruiters
◼ The candidate red flag most hiring managers completely miss
◼ Why taking 2–3 extra weeks to hire saves you long-term
🎙️ Host: Liz Mbwambo
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizmbwambo/
Upwynn Marketing: https://www.linkedin.com/company/upwynnmarketing/home/
🎤 Guest: Laura McDonough
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauragmcdonough/
L. Rose Recruiting: https://www.linkedin.com/company/l-rose-recruiting/home/
🎧 Find us
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@upwynnmarketing
Spotify: coming soon
Apple Podcasts: coming soon
Website: Upwynnmarketing.com
From the publisher's feed
Everybody's curious about how other people run their business. We just went ahead and asked. A casual conversation over our favorite drinks.
In Other People's Business gets into…
Laughter or serious conversations. Either way you will walk away with some insights.
Want to learn more about our marketing agency?
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