What fifth-generation fighter jet should India invest in—the Russian Su-57 or the American F-35? This question has taken centre stage following a calculated pitch by Russian state media, spearheaded by Sputnik, touting the Su-57 as a ‘superior option’ for India. But is this merely a tactical move, or does it hold real strategic merit?

The timing of Russia's push is quite interesting too. President Vladimir Putin is slated to visit New Delhi in early 2025 for the 23rd annual India-Russia bilateral summit. Against this backdrop, the Sputnik India tweets have reignited debate over India’s potential acquisition of a fifth-generation fighter jet. It presented the Su-57 as an attractive alternative to the F-35 and an essential complement to India’s "Make in India" initiative. But is this a sincere offer or a cleverly crafted gambit?

The pitch also comes when India is grappling with delays in its domestic fighter programs, such as the Tejas Mark 1A and the ambitious AMCA, which remain in the prototype stage. These setbacks create a fertile ground for foreign lobbying, but should India let its long-term vision for indigenous defence manufacturing take a backseat?

On this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor analyse Russia’s ‘googly’ pitch for the Su-57. How would acquiring this jet impact India’s indigenous AMCA project? Given its current defense strategy, how realistic is the prospect of India considering the Su-57—or even the F-35?

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Binge our earlier episodes on fighter jets here:

Military Equipment To Conflicts: How India-Russia Friendship Has Endured Ups & Downs: https://podcasts.indiatoday.in...&-history/in-our-defence/military-equipment-to-conflicts-how-india-russia-friendship-has-endured-ups-downs-in-our-defence-s02-ep-30-1047333-2024-07-11

Why Indian Air Force is in hunt for fighter jets all over again: https://podcasts.indiatoday.in...&-history/in-our-defence/why-indian-air-force-is-in-hunt-for-fighter-jets-all-over-again-in-our-defence-s02-ep-45-1117371-2024-11-08

Produced by Anna Priyadarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Off the coast of Goa, a tragic collision between the Indian Navy submarine INS Karanj and a fishing boat left two fishermen dead, while 11 others survived. The crash caused ₹10 crore worth of damage to the submarine, and the fallout has raised some big questions.

In this episode of In Our Defence, Dev Goswami and Shiv Aroor deeply dive into this incident. They break down how collisions like these happen and why they’re so hard to avoid. The submarine was at periscope depth, recharging its batteries, and visibility was poor—so what went wrong? Why did the Navy file an FIR against the fishing boat's captain? What was so surprising about the FIR’s contents that left Shiv perplexed?

Who should really take the blame? They also discuss what happens after a crash—how investigations work, the immediate steps taken to ensure everyone’s safety, and what this means for avoiding future incidents. Along the way, Shiv and Dev bring in historical examples to help explain how tricky navigation can be at sea.

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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Catch our previous episodes on Indian Navy here:

https://podcasts.indiatoday.in/politics-&-history/in-our-defence/deep-dive-on-indias-nuclear-submarines-and-why-ssns-are-need-of-the-hour-in-our-defence-s02-ep-22-997259-2024-05-02

https://podcasts.indiatoday.in/politics-&-history/in-our-defence/nuclear-powered-attack-submarines-cleared-how-these-sharks-will-give-indian-navy-new-teeth-1107759-2024-10-17

A leaked letter from Lieutenant General Rajiv Puri has ignited a debate about women in the Indian Army.

The October 1 letter, based on an “in-house review” of eight colonel-ranked women officers under his command, raises concerns like “ego issues,” “lack of empathy,” and challenges in leadership styles. This has divided opinion — is the letter reflective of ingrained patriarchy in the military or a critique of preparedness for command roles?

This controversy comes against the backdrop of historic steps like granting permanent commissions to women in 2020, following a Supreme Court order, and promoting 108 women officers to colonel rank in February 2023.

But how did an internal letter get leaked? What does it reveal about the military's structural resistance to women in leadership roles? And how does the Indian Army compare with the Navy and Air Force, where women have been flying fighters and serving on warships since 2015?

Join host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor as they unpack the uproar, explore the historical resistance to gender integration in the military, and discuss the slow but inevitable path toward inclusion envisioned by figures like the Late Lt. General Bipin Rawat.

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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

On November 12, the DRDO conducted the maiden flight test of the Long-Range Land Attack Cruise Missile (LRLACM), successfully meeting all mission objectives. Just days later, on November 16, India achieved another milestone by testing its first long-range hypersonic missile, joining an elite club of nations with this cutting-edge capability.

What makes these tests so special?

In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor analyse their significance for India’s defence landscape. What do these tests reveal about India's growing missile technology? How do they enhance the country’s strategic position globally?

The LRLACM test was especially significant because it showcased the Manik engine, a homegrown development representing a major advancement in the country’s missile propulsion technology.

Are these breakthroughs sufficient to ensure India’s self-reliance in defence technology?

Looking back at the evolution of missile technology, the duo traces its journey from primitive war implements to sophisticated systems like the BrahMos. How has this technological evolution transformed modern warfare and diplomacy?

Moreover, they revisit the legacy of the BrahMos project as a model of international collaboration and technological growth.

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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Binge on the previous episodes here:

How India hit it out of the park with the legendary BrahMos cruise missile: https://podcasts.indiatoday.in/politics-&-history/in-our-defence/how-india-hit-it-out-of-the-park-with-the-legendary-brahmos-cruise-missile-in-our-defence-s02-ep-21-991112-2024-04-25

Hypersonic missiles tested in Iran-Israel conflict: Game-changer in modern warfare? https://podcasts.indiatoday.in/politics-&-history/in-our-defence/hypersonic-missiles-tested-in-iran-israel-conflict-game-changer-in-modern-warfare-in-our-defence-s02-ep-42-1101993-2024-10-04

America to blame for Tejas delay? https://podcasts.indiatoday.in/politics-&-history/in-our-defence/america-to-blame-for-tejas-delay-in-our-defence-s02-ep-31-1052148-2024-07-18

Recent events have put the Indian intelligence establishment under scrutiny, especially after a high-profile incident that raised questions about its effectiveness. An indictment filed by the U.S. Department of Justice on October 18 in a New York court charged Vikash Yadav and his associate Nikhil Gupta with murder-for-hire, conspiracy to commit murder, and money laundering. The target was Khalistani separatist and Sikhs For Justice founder Gurpatwant Singh Pannun in New York in June 2023.

Yadav, a former Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) officer, was reportedly working with India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) at the time. The incident raises concerns about intelligence oversight.

But what does the intelligence world look like? What does the job of an intelligence officer truly entail? How are covert operations planned and executed, and where do the gaps lie? Does the Pannun incident reveal deeper issues within India’s intelligence framework?

In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor examine the intricacies of India’s intelligence agencies, often portrayed in a “Bollywoodised” lens of intrigue and mystery. They break down terms like “intel,” “actionable intelligence,” and “intelligence failure” and look past the sensationalised images to reveal the real challenges and operational dynamics faced by Indian intelligence.

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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

With a steady decline in active squadrons, the Indian Air Force (IAF) is currently operating well below its optimal strength of 42 squadrons. Numbers are expected to dip further as older aircraft retire.

In this episode, Shiv and Dev unpack India’s decision to initiate a new global competition for fighter jets to fill a critical gap in the IAF’s strength.

The IAF initially purchased 36 Rafales (far fewer than the original 126 needed); India’s MRFA tender—an acquisition plan for 114 fighter jets—aims to address this need.

But, with the Rafale already in service and extensively customised for Indian requirements, the duo questions the necessity of another costly, lengthy competition. Why repeat the process when the Rafale was chosen a decade ago? Yes, we do require more aircraft, but do we need another contest? Is political wrangling slowing down India’s defence readiness?

What’s driving this return to a complex competition, and can India afford further delays in bolstering its aerial capabilities?

They propose a straightforward contest between the Rafale and Boeing’s F-15, a newer contender, to streamline the acquisition and focus on India’s urgent defence needs.

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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini

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India and China have agreed to resume military patrolling along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh, marking a step toward disengagement, Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri announced ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Russia for the BRICS Summit. PM Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping held their first formal discussion since the 2020 border clashes, signalling renewed dialogue after years of military buildup on both sides.

In the latest In Our Defence podcast, host Dev Goswami and defence analyst Shiv Aroor break down this diplomatic shift. Does this signal an end to the four-year standoff, or could it be a temporary lull? How significant is the timing, and can these talks lead to tangible changes on the ground? Is this really a 'breakthrough' moment for India? While Modi and Xi’s recent talks may signal diplomatic progress, the hosts remain sceptical, questioning whether China’s intentions are ‘trustworthy’. They explore why India focuses less on trust and more on strategic caution, with each move on the LAC grounded in military readiness rather than expectations of goodwill.

The real test, the hosts suggest, lies in the details of implementation. Will there be clear timelines and phased steps, or will the process remain slow and complex? And what could a cautious, phased approach mean for long-term peace between the two countries? The hosts weigh in on what this could mean for the future of relations between the two nations.

Produced by Anna Priyadarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Can you picture a ship that can stay hidden under water for months on end, manoeuvre sharply and speedily, and surface at just at the right time, literally out of the blue, to wreak havoc on the enemy?

That's a nuclear-powered attack submarine, or SSN, for you. Nuclear strategist Rear Admiral Raja Menon (retired) once called these submarines "the ultimate arbiter of sea power".

But what it is about these submarines that makes them so lethal? Dev Goswami and Shiv Aroor take a deep dive on this and much more on the latest episode of In Our Defence.

The Cabinet Committee on Security recently gave the go-ahead to develop and build two of these ‘sharks’ under a project that has been long pending.

On this episode, Dev and Shiv take a look at the super capabilities of nuclear-powered attack submarines, why the Indian Navy desperately needs them, and edge that the two now under-development sharks will give once they are in service.

Crucially, the two also discuss why the project to build these submarines was hanging fire for so long and delve on the opportunities that were lost as a result.

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Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has announced that flight testing for India’s ‘Loyal Wingman’ drone will begin by 2024. Part of HAL’s Combat Air Teaming System, this indigenous drone will accompany manned IAF fighter jets, offering a new dimension in air combat by working alongside or behind fighters to protect and support them. It can be launched from aircraft like the C-130 or Su-30 MKI and controlled via a secure data link.

The CATS Warrior first unveiled in 2021, is a twin-engined unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) designed for aerial and ground attacks. HAL has teamed up with private sector players to develop this cutting-edge technology. But what exactly is a ‘loyal wingman’ drone? And how does it revolutionise the concept of Manned-Unmanned Teaming (MUM-T) in modern warfare?

In other news, France started developing an air-combat drone that will serve as an unmanned wingman for the country’s Rafale fighter. This is part of a contract with Dassault Aviation to start work on an upgrade package for the aircraft.

Countries like the U.S., Australia, Russia, and China are also racing to perfect this tech, which could shift pilots from direct combat roles to more strategic oversight as UAVs handle dangerous missions. Can India make its mark in this high-tech space?

In this episode, Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into the global race for ‘loyal wingman’ drones. They explore the progress made by nations like France, which has just launched its wingman project for Rafale fighters, and discuss how the integration of unmanned systems like Boeing’s MQ-28 Ghost Bat could redefine future air combat.

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Produced by Anna Priydarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Iran fired more than 180 ballistic missiles, including its hypersonic medium-range Fattah-2, in a major offensive aimed at overwhelming Israel’s air defences. The strikes hit key military targets such as the Nevatim and Tel Nof airbases, home to Israel’s F-35 fighter jets.

In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor unpack Iran’s recent missile offensive on Israel and how the Fattah-2, used for the first time, targeted Israel’s Arrow defence system, designed to intercept long-range ballistic missiles. Iranian officials claim that 90% of their missiles successfully hit their targets, although Israel and the U.S. reported intercepting most of the projectiles.

So, what makes hypersonic ballistic missiles so formidable? How do they differ from traditional missiles, and what technologies allow them to bypass even the most sophisticated defence systems? How prepared is the world for the era of hypersonic missile warfare?

But this attack raises deeper questions about Iran’s military capabilities. While Iranian officials touted the success of their missiles, critics argue that Iran may exaggerate its technological prowess. Is Iran truly at the cutting edge of hypersonic technology, or is there more to the story?

We also explore the broader implications of hypersonic missile technology. Where does India fare in all of this? What’s India’s ballistic missile defence system?

With superpowers like the U.S., China, and Russia advancing their hypersonic weapons programs, this new arms race is unfolding without the regulatory oversight that controlled nuclear arms during the Cold War. What does this mean for global security? Can existing defence systems, like Israel’s Iron Dome and Arrow, adapt to meet this emerging threat?

Finally, we consider the nuclear dimension. If an incoming missile is suspected to be nuclear, who makes the decision to intercept it? And what are the strategic considerations behind such a critical move?

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Produced by Anna Priydarshini

Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi