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- S2 E6 (Part 2 of 2) Anti-racist Relationships Among BIPOC: A Continued Conversation with Dr. Keba M. Rogers
Dr. Keba M. Rogers continues to share her perspective on antiracist and liberatory relationships with a focus on leveling up to excellence, setting boundaries, and letting people be who they are rather than who we want them to be. Eva and Jason close out with their take-aways from this important conversation.
50 min - S2 E6 (Part 1 of 2) Anti-racist Relationships Among BIPOC: A Conversation with Dr. Keba M. Rogers
Eva and Jason close out season 2 with Dr. Keba M. Rogers talking about anti-racist and liberatory relationships among BIPOC folks. Authenticity, valuing humanity over "time," and challenging internalized racism are just a few of the important topics that are covered in part 1 of this episode.
43 min - S2 E5 (Part 3 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Reflection
Eva and Jason reflect on their takeaways from their conversation with Cardozie and Erin, including the implications of Jason saying he “does this work.”
25 min - S2 E5 (Part 2 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Continued Conversation with Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy
Eva and Jason continue the conversation with Cardozie and Erin to discuss elephants, colonialism, mistakes made, and ways that friendship can be a form of freedom.
35 min - S2 E5 (Part 1 of 3) Anti-racist Relationships Among Friends and Colleagues: A Conversation with Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy
Eva and Jason jump right in with friends and colleagues Cardozie Jones and Erin Dunlevy to explore the need for boundaries, ways to nurture friendships and how “over-relating” can be a red flag for new cross-racial relationships.
36 min - S2 E4 (Part 2 of 2): Anti-racist Relationships in the Family: A Continued Conversation with Perri Chandler
Building off of Part 1, Perri opens up to Eva and Jason about a lot, including the difference between "challenging" vs. "addressing," developing trust to be in relationship through the struggles, and what self care looks like for her. She also talks about when she uses the phrase, “It’s not for you.”
35 min - S2 E4 (Part 1 of 2): Anti-racist Relationships in the Family: A Conversation with Perri Chandler
In this episode, Eva and Jason connect with Perri Chandler about anti-racist relationships in the family. Perri opens up about being married to a “white dude,” what changed when they had a child, and the importance of naming race and racism, even when it’s difficult.
37 min - S2 E3 (Part 2 of 2): Anti-racist Relationships Among White People: A Continued Conversation with Dr. Kathy ObearEva, Jason and Dr. Kathy Obear continue their conversation, exploring ways White people can reconnect to their intuition and discussing Dr. Obear's "Ladder of Fear" framework as a way to get to the bottom of any fear White people have about re-envisioning relationships through an anti-racism lens.41 min
- S2 E3 (Part 1 of 2): Anti-racist Relationships Among White People: A Conversation with Dr. Kathy Obear
Cancel culture, perfectionism, conflict, and feeling feelings...how do these things impact White people's ability to relate with each other through an anti-racism lens? Listen as Eva, Jason and Dr. Kathy Obear explore this and other questions related to anti-racist relationships among White people.
41 min - S2 E2 (Part 2 of 2): Anti-racist Relationships at Work: A Continued Conversation with Benny Vasquez
Eva, Jason, and Benny continue the conversation to explore anti-racist relationships at work through the lens of consent, consistency, and conscious relationships. Listen as Benny talks about the need to provide “heart space.”
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Music: “Thank You For Being a Friend” -- DJ Jus Ed featuring Alison Crockett; Vocals Written and Performed by Alison Crockett
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Wondering how to deepen your friendships and other relationships through an antiracism lens? Listen as two friends choose to take on the cross racial work of racial healing after recognizing that their work friendship wasn’t real at all.
Eva and Jason put their professional diversity, equity and inclusion chops to the test in this series of fun, intentional and sometimes difficult conversations.