Atayal folk songs are like… techno, says singer Eri Liao. In this part of our interview, Eri talks about Atayal lullabies, Aza Roots’ new album, the joys and clichés of being labelled a “musical Indigenous”, and what’s often missed about Indigenous vocal traditions. She also reflects on the coexistence of peace and the threat of war on her home island.

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One day, Eri Liao woke up and decided that Brazil’s iconic ‘Águas de Março’ needed to live in her ancestral Atayal language. In this episode, the Atayal-Japanese singer shares how she not only translated but also localised the lyrics — and why she keeps Atayal at the heart of her genre-blending music, even on the stages of Tokyo.

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Ever heard a song that feels like a memory you’ve never lived? Singer Eri Liao, half Indigenous Atayal and half Japanese, opens our new episode with her original ‘Taragay 漂亮’. Sung in Atayal, Japanese, and Mandarin, it’s as vivid and heartfelt as the heritage she carries. Here, Eri invites us into her story.

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The unique dialect of the Matsu Islands became a national language of Taiwan in 2019. Eva Tsao (曹辰瑩), its first government-certified teacher, is on a mission to help it survive in a Mandarin-dominated world.

In the final part of our interview, Eva reflects on teaching Matsu in schools — from curriculum reform to daily classroom challenges. Can this language bridge generations and thrive into the future?

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Why do many people mistake the Matsu language for Hakka? Matsu teacher and YouTuber Eva Tsao (曹辰瑩) explores what makes this lesser known national language of Taiwan so distinct — and unfamiliar, even to Taiwanese ears.

She also shares how the language connects her to the past, why it varies across the islands, and the one must-know phrase every visitor should learn before stepping foot on Matsu.

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“I am from Matsu (我是馬祖儂),” declares our guest, taking us on a journey through her island home, its unique dialect, and an identity shaped by both distance and history.

Educator and YouTuber Eva Tsao (曹辰瑩) didn’t grow up speaking Matsu — but learning it changed her life. Today, she teaches the language and runs Chami’s Store (掐米亞店), a YouTube channel full of stories and voices from the islands. We talk heritage, humour, and why Matsu is so much more than its military past.

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Are cochlear implants a solution or just one part of the picture? In the final part of our series, we dive into how technology — from video calls to implants — can help or hinder Deaf children’s access to language.

We question viral implant activation videos, unpack the dangers of language deprivation, and look at how Taiwan’s health insurance policies may be shaping the Deaf community in troubling ways.

Our guests: Dr. Jean F. Andrews, professor emerita of Deaf studies and Deaf education at Lamar University (U.S.), and Dr. Fanghuai Ku, founder of the Signing Village Workshop

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Did you know many Deaf children in Taiwan already learn American Sign Language (ASL) fingerspelling? Dr. Jean Andrews and Dr. Fanghuai Ku unpack Deaf education in a globalised world — how Deaf people acquire multiple languages, and why Taiwan is ahead of the curve in some areas.

We explore how Deaf culture is passed down, the vital role of Deaf educators, and why a janitor might end up being the best communicator in a Deaf school.

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Is sign language an afterthought, or the foundation of Deaf education? Dr. Jean Andrews walks us through different perspectives on Deaf education, making a strong case for the roles American Sign Language (ASL) and Taiwan Sign Language (TSL) should play in Deaf schools.

We explore the bilingual-bimodal model, ASL versus Signed English, and examine what Taiwan is getting right — and wrong — since recognising TSL as a national language in 2019.

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Like any spoken language, a sign language carries the soul of its people — their shared culture, identity and everyday struggles. In this episode, we explore the Deaf communities of Taiwan and the U.S., examining how sign languages shape belonging and call for visibility.

Our guest is Dr. Jean Andrews, a renowned American scholar with decades of global research in Deaf studies and Deaf education.

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