Alicia is originally from New York but currently lives in Ohio with her boyfriend Bryan and three dogs, Gunner, Chini, and Avalanche. She has been a professional dog trainer for about 8 years and has gained a lot of really valuable perspective in that time. We originally met through a mutual friend in the protection sport community and were reconnected recently via TikTok. We share a lot of the same philosophies on what it means to be a dog trainer, on dog ownership, and dogs in general. We share the common trait of wanting to rebel against the norm and challenge other dog people to do the same. Our passion for advocating for our clients and other dog owners is a highlight in our daily conversations. In this episode we talk about the inevitable burn out of being a professional dog trainer, how we eventually learned to manage those feelings in our own lives, and how we see burn out contributing to dog trainers around the world being exposed in cases of abuse and neglect. This is a really awesome episode, I look forward to having Alicia on again soon. You can follow her on Instagram here: https://instagram.com/bitesyze?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= and TikTok here: https://www.tiktok.com/@chini_borderheeler?_t=8ZNd7zNd0UI&_r=1 Sign up for the LIVE recording event on February 11th here: https://commongroundcanine.as.me/?appointmentType=40818626