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We talk about rural life, family tension, horror and grief, along with the things we don't or cannot say, today with poet Daniel Lurie.

Guest Bio: Daniel is a writer, editor, and educator from eastern Montana. He holds an MFA from the University of Idaho. Daniel writes about the environment, Judaism, rural life, gentrification, and grief. His work has appeared or is forthcoming in literary journals and magazines like Pleiades, The Iowa Review, swamp pink, Poetry Northwest, Gulf Coast, and CutBank, among many others. 

He’s the co-founder and co-editor of Outskirts Literary Journal.

He served as the 2025-2026 Ronald Wallace Poetry Fellow at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and is a current Wallace Stegner Fellow at Stanford University.

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Poem 1 

“Letter I Wish My Father Wrote from Eastern Montana,” By Daniel Lurie, read by David, as it appeared in The Shore Poetry.

Poem 2: 

“Family Portrait: Featuring a Talala, Oklahoma Sunset,” written and read by Daniel Lurie. Published in Southwest Review

Poem 3: 

“You Guys,” by Ocean Vuong, read by Daniel Lurie

From TIME IS A MOTHER by Ocean Vuong, published by Penguin Press, an imprint of Penguin Publishing Group, a division of Penguin Random House LLC. Copyright © 2022 by Ocean Vuong. 

Thank you to Penguin Press for permission to read it here on the podcast.

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Welcome to In Three Poems, where each episode, we talk with a guest poet, read two poems by them and one by a poet of their choice. And we explore what connections the works may have. Coincidentally, our guest today, Jessica Whipple has chosen a poem by first-season guest Grant Clauser.

Jessica Whipple writes for adults and children. Her poetry has been published most recently in Paddler Press, Wild Roof Journal, Philadelphia Stories, Gastronomica: The Journal for Food Studies, Anti-Heroin Chic, Pine Hills Review, and ONE ART.

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Poem 1:

"Poem on the Last Day of My Thirties," written by Jessica Whipple and read by David. 

I find a can of beans in the kitchen.
Great Northern, left there open the night before.
They're past their prime now. Into the trash they go.

I'm ashamed of the waste. I didn't intend to wake 
wondering if I've spent well the years in this vessel 
but sometimes a question needs to be left out on the counter 
to know what should be done with it in the morning. 

Poem 2:

"Mother Coyote Explains a Wildlife Crossing," written and read by Jessica Whipple.

It is new like you are new. Yet,
it is again, and again is open.
It is there like the water is there
and always, like weather.
Because of it, only is gone.
It’s been replaced by over,
which, before this, was
something only mountains gave us.
Yes, there will be lost.
We’ll slink under its fog
until we raise our heads
to see all of where.
And where is worth seeing.
Where is quiet, but
it will awaken
and surge
and you will, too

Poem 3

"Watching a Flying Squirrel by Grant Clauser from his book Temporary Shelters

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In Three Poems, where we get to know today’s poets through reading a couple of their own poems, as well as the works of others who have had an influence on them in some way. Without further delay, today’s poet is Pulitzer Prize winner Carl Phillips

Poem 1: 

“Sunlight and Fog” by Carl Phillips from Scattered Snows, to the North, published in 2024 by Farrar, Straus and Giroux, read here by David J. Bauman.

Poem 2: 

“And If I Fall” from Then the War, and Selected Poems, 2007 - 2020, Farrar, Straus, and Giroux (2023), written and read by Carl Phillips.

Poem 3:

“Chinese Bowls” by Stefanie Marlis, from her book Slow Joy, published by University of Wisconsin Press, 1989. 

Carl Phillips is the author of 17 books of poetry, most recently Scattered Snows, to the North (2024) and Then the War: And Selected Poems 2007-2020, which won the 2023 Pulitzer Prize. His other honors include the 2021 Jackson Prize, the Aiken Taylor Award for Modern American Poetry, the Kingsley Tufts Award, a Lambda Literary Award, the PEN/USA Award for Poetry, and fellowships from the Guggenheim Foundation, the Library of Congress, the American Academy of Arts and Letters, and the Academy of American Poets.

Phillips has also written three prose books, most recently My Trade is Mystery: Seven Meditations from a Life in Writing (Yale University Press, 2022); and he has translated the Philoctetes of Sophocles (Oxford University Press, 2004).

Links:

Scattered Snows, to the North

Then, the War

My Trade Is Mystery

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Welcome to the podcast where we talk with poets at various stages of their poetry craft and get to know them, In Three Poems. This episode we talk with journalist-turned poet, Justin Strawser about his book Those Who Wait. 

Poem One: 

“Tree Bark” by Justin Strawser, read by David J. Bauman

Poem Two: 

“Moments That Feel Big” by Justin Strawser

Poem Three:  

“January,” from Swallowtail (Button Poetry, 2019) by Brenna Twohy, read by Justin Strawser. Thank you to Button Poetry and Brenna Twohy for permission to read the poem on the podcast. 

Links:

Those Who Wait, by Justin Strawser

Swallowtail, by Brenna Twohy

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In Three Poems is the poetry podcast where we read two poems by our guest and one by another poet of their choice. We talk about the poems and let the poems talk among themselves.

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Guest Bio:

Mai-Linh K. Hong is a Vietnamese American poet and literary scholar. Her work explores how refugees know, tell about, and creatively reimagine their worlds during and after migration.  She has been a Voices of Our Nation Fellow and Tin House Scholar. Her research has been supported by fellowships from the American Council of Learned Societies, American Association of University Women, and the Institute for Citizens & Scholars.​​ ​

Poem 1:

“Blue Ridge Elegy” from Continental Drift, written by Mai-Linh Hong, read by David

Poem 2:

“Plum Jam” also from Continental Drift, read by Mai-Linh Hong

Poem 3:

“ABC for Refugees” by Monica Sok, from A Nail the Evening Hangs On (Copper Canyon Press, 2020). Read by Mai-Linh. Thank you to Monica Sok and Copper Canyon Press for permission to read the poem on the show. 

Links:

Mai-Linh Hong's Website 

Instagram for Continental Drift: @continentaldrift_poems

"ABC for Refugees" by Monica Sok (on the Poetry Foundation Website)

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We talk with poet and editor Katie Manning about poetry and Red Tailed Hawks, as well as being disappointed by our heroes. 

Poem 1: 

"On the Origin" by Katie Manning, read by David

Poem 2: 

"At the Bird Rehab Facility in Vermont" Written and read by Katie 

Poem 3 

"Family Portrait with Time Travel and Dirty Wings" by Sally Rosen Kindred, first published in Whale Road Review (see link), read by Katie. 

We thank Sally Rosen Kindred for permission to read her poem. 

Music by Brian P. Kelly: https://www.youtube.com/user/wbarreguy

Other Links:

Katie's Website, where you can find her books as well as news and information about her work. 

Sally Rosen Kindred's Website, where you can read selected poems by Sally and learn more about her book Where the Wolf, Book of Asters, and others. 

Katie's Bio:

Katie Manning is the author of Hereverent (Agape Editions), Tasty Other (Main Street Rag), and six chapbook collections: How to Play (Louisiana Literature Press), 28,065 Nights (River Glass Books), A Door with a Voice (Agape Editions), I Awake in My Womb (Yellow Flag Press), Tea with Ezra (Boneset Books), and The Gospel of the Bleeding Woman (Wipf & Stock). Her poems have been published in many anthologies and literary journals, including American Journal of Nursing, HAD, The Lascaux Review, New Letters, Poet Lore, Relief, So to Speak, Stirring, SWWIM, and Verse Daily. She has received the Main Street Rag Poetry Book Award, The Nassau Review Author Award for Poetry, and The Thimble Prize, among other honors and nominations. She is the founder and editor-in-chief of Whale Road Review. 

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In Three Poems, the podcast where poets and poems talk among themselves. This is Season 2, episode 3.

David chats with Crystal Simone Smith, author of seven books of poetry and nonfiction, most recently, Common Sense: Addressed to Today’s Citizens of America, published by Beacon Press (September 2025),  and upcoming Ghostwoman, Arising.

Poem 1:

"Induction" from Crystal's book Common Sense, read by David

Poem 2:

“Loose Ends” from Crystal's upcoming book Ghostwoman, Arising, due out in November. 

Poem 3:

“Cry Me a River,” was from Roberta Beary’s 2025 collection of haibun called Crazy Bitches, published by Macq books. We thank Roberta for her kind permission to share her poem on the Podcast.

You can learn about all Crystal Simone Smith's books on her website at CrystalSimoneSmith.com.

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Welcome to season two of the In Three Poems Podcast with host David J. Bauman.

We're talking with Claudia Saleeby Savage, author of 4 books of poetry, including most recently: First You Must Destroy the World  (First Matter Press, fall 2025).

Her other books are Metal Used for Beauty Alone (from The Poetry Box for print + voice), Bruising Continents (Spuyten Duyvil), and The Last One Eaten: A Maligned Vegetable's History. Claudia also has recent work in Poetry Northwest, Nimrod, About Place, and River Teeth.

More Links: 

To Claudia’s Books

And her website

Poem 1:

“My Daughter Discovers Synchronicity,” by Claudia, read by David.

Poem 2:

“They Named their child Thawra,” from First You Must  Destroy the World, written and read by Claudia. 

Poem 3:

“They Said it Was Morning,” by Nathalie Khankan, as published in her book Quiet Orient Riot (Omnidawn Publishing, 2020).

Our Deep thanks to Nathalie Khankan and Omnidawn for allowing us to read the poem on the podcast. 

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This episode David talks with poet, editor and podcaster Dr. Han VanderHart about the influences of rural life on childhood as well as poetry, and how a poet can bridge the gulf of experience from one reader to another. 

POEM 1 

“Invocation” by Han VanderHart, read by David.

POEM 2

“Ode to Knowing,” written and read by Han.

POEM 3

“Boston Seaport, July 2024” Catherine Rockwood," published in Moist Poetry Journal. 

More Links:

HanVanderHart.com

Han's Books

Dogwitch by Catherine Rockwood

Han VanderHart is a queer writer living in Durham, NC. They are the author of Larks (Ohio University Press, 2025), winner of the 2024 Hollis Summers Poetry Prize, the chapbook Hawk & Moon (Bottlecap Press, 2025), and What Pecan Light (Bull City Press, 2021), and have poetry and essays published in Poetry Daily, Kenyon Review, The American Poetry Review, Poetry Magazine, Poetry Northwest, Prairie Schooner, Poet Lore, AGNI, and elsewhere. Han hosts Of Poetry Podcast and co-edits River River Books. 

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Welcome to In Three Poems, where we read three poems with a different guest poet each episode, and the third poem is always a work by another poet, chosen by our guest. 

David talks poetry, faith, and folklore, method and mythology, with Nigerian poet and professor of English, Saddiq Dzukogi. 

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POEM 1. “Ring” First published in Poetry Magazine (September, 2021), read by David

POEM 2. Excerpt from Bakandamiya: An Elegy (University of Nebraska Press, 2025), read by Saddiq.

POEM 3. "Vows” by Gbenga Adesina from Death Does Not End at the Sea (University of Nebraska Press, 2025), read by Saddiq.

Links:

Ring by Saddiq Dzukogi, Poetry Magazine

Saddiq Dzukogi

Saddiq’s Books

Gbenga Adesina’ Death Does Not End at the Sea

Saddiq's Bio:

Saddiq Dzukogi is the author of Your Crib, My Qibla (Nebraska, 2021), winner of the Derek Walcott Prize for Poetry and the Julie Suk Award-- and shortlisted for the Nigeria Prize for Literature, and most recently, Bakandamiya: An Elegy (Nebraska, 2025).His poems have appeared in Poetry Magazine, Kenyon Review, Prairie Schooner, Narrative Magazine, Ploughshares, Guernica Magazine, Poetry London, Best American Experimental Writing Anthology, and Cincinnati Review. He has received fellowships from the Nebraska Arts Council, Mississippi Arts Commission, and Cave Canem.

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