In this episode recorded in July, Si and Desi take advantage of Christa's absence to pepper up their speech (but only just a bit). Content warnings aside, this week their free-form conversation discusses:

• Public speaking, whether giving evidence on the stand, presenting to stakeholders following an incident response, or delivering training materials
• The relative benefits of unscripted interactions vs. scripted material, depending on audience
• How pandemic-driven modalities affected speaking delivery (and even job interviews) in terms of nonverbal (body) language, with and without cameras
• Presentation material creation tools
• The need for, and difficulty of, getting good feedback

There's also a preview of their upcoming conversation on training and certification.