Inclusion Bites Podcast

Joanne Lockwood is joined by Sara Dalsfelt, Chief Marketing Officer at Adway, to unpack why traditional CV-led recruitment can be a poor proxy for readiness, transferable skills, and future potential. Sara argues that over-reliance on resumes and cover letters bakes bias into hiring and encourages employers to exclude early, rather than designing processes that actively include.

The conversation explores how talent attraction can be rethought as a distribution and candidate-experience challenge, using social media to reach passive candidates with sequenced, authentic storytelling. Sara shares practical ideas for opening the funnel to broader and more diverse talent pools, then using early, automated assessments and screening questions to identify relevance without defaulting to credential filters.

They also discuss what a modern, mobile-first application journey can look like: capturing interest quickly, reducing friction, avoiding unnecessary steps like account creation and CV uploads, and following up in a way that respects candidates’ time. Alongside the tech and marketing strategy, Joanne and Sara stress the importance of organisational authenticity and retention—a great recruitment experience only works if the employee experience matches what is being promised.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by executive coach and strategic advisor Samreen McGregor for a wide-ranging conversation about adversity and authentic leadership, set against a backdrop of global uncertainty and everyday personal pressures.

Samreen unpacks how adversity can show up both externally and internally, and why the language and stigma around trauma can prevent people from recognising its impact. Drawing on her coaching work and research, she describes trauma as a deep “wound” that can influence behaviour, relationships, and performance over time, and explains the value of creating safe spaces where people can notice and work with these patterns.

Both Joanne and Samreen share formative experiences that shaped their sense of self-worth and belonging. They explore how childhood messages can drive perfectionism, validation-seeking, and boundary issues at work, and how these dynamics connect to psychological safety and inclusion.

The discussion also moves into identity and belonging across different contexts. Samreen reflects on growing up across cultures and languages, and Joanne shares her journey of gender transition and the ongoing challenge of feeling included without necessarily feeling a deep sense of belonging.

The episode closes with Samreen introducing her book, Leader Awakened, and her invitation for leaders to slow down, reflect more deeply, and broaden leadership beyond purely cognitive approaches to include emotional and embodied awareness.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by leadership coach and facilitator Debbie Danon for a wide-ranging conversation about what it means to lead with care in a world that often feels unsafe and polarised. Debbie reflects on growing up as a Turkish Jewish Londoner and how early experiences of being “a minority within a minority” shaped her relationship with identity, belonging, and the constant pressure to explain herself.

Debbie shares deeply personal experiences of miscarriage, termination for medical reasons, and the impact of grief on the body and mind. Together, they explore why people often freeze with fear of “getting it wrong,” and what genuinely supportive responses can look like in moments of loss—less fixing and rationalising, more presence, listening, and simple acknowledgement.

The episode also turns to the strain that global conflict can place on individuals and communities, including the rise of antisemitism and Islamophobia, and the ways trauma can dysregulate us and shrink our capacity. Debbie describes stepping back from social media, seeking trauma-informed support, and focusing her energy on relational spaces where listening is possible.

Across the discussion, Debbie’s “rebel leadership” framework—rebel authenticity, rebel balance, and rebel courage—becomes a practical lens for sustaining inclusion work over the long term. Joanne and Debbie discuss allyship beyond performance, how to build trust and relationship before action, and why community and solidarity are essential for lasting change.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by environmentalist and solutionist Nicola Peel to explore why environmental action so often gets stuck, and what it takes to shift from awareness to practical change.

They begin by unpacking how environmentalists are portrayed in the media and how ownership, advertising and lobbying influence what stories are told and which voices are amplified. From there, the discussion widens to the challenge of changing a society built around fossil fuels and convenience, and why progress needs more than individual good intentions.

Across the episode, Nicola and Joanne focus on solutions: personal responsibility like recycling and conscious consumption, community-based action such as community gardens, and the need for broader systems change including transport and infrastructure. They also discuss biodiversity loss, rewilding, plastic pollution, protecting existing ancient forests rather than relying on new tree planting, and the importance of accountability for corporate pollution.

The conversation closes with a clear call to action: connect with others, build momentum locally, and use collective pressure to influence political and business decisions, keeping a compelling vision of a healthier future in view.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by author Nonir Amicitia, who co-writes as O E Tearmann, to explore the idea of “mirrors and doorways” in storytelling: mirrors that let marginalised readers see themselves as full characters, and doorways that invite others into empathy and conversation.

They discuss how queer and trans characters are too often defined only by their identity or framed through tragedy, and why it matters to write stories where identity is present and meaningful but not the sole plot. Nonir shares how their hopeful queer dystopian series centres adventure, found family, and community, while still reflecting realities such as transition, disrespect, and the pressure of cis-heteronormative environments.

The conversation also touches on the emotional toll of hostile rhetoric and the “reactive terror loop” that can come from constantly amplifying threats online. Both reflect on mental health, dysphoria, anxiety, depression, stigma, and the importance of safe spaces, supportive relationships, and representation that shows people asking for help and still being fully human.

Nonir speaks candidly about their nonbinary identity and the challenge of presentation in a heavily gendered society, including the value of language and visibility for young people. The episode closes with lighter reflections on juggling as a metaphor for managing many projects, a brief aside on AI and productivity, and details on where to find Nonir and their books.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by linguistic anthropologist Suzanne Wertheim to explore what inclusive communication looks like in practice, and why it’s more helpful to focus on behaviours and outcomes than memorising lists of “good” and “bad” words.

Suzanne shares a set of guiding principles for inclusive language, from reflecting reality and showing respect to preventing erasure and recognising pain points. Together they unpack why people often freeze with fear of “getting it wrong,” how silence can communicate exclusion, and how doing a bit of prep work reduces the burden placed on marginalised people to educate others.

The conversation moves through real-world examples, including inclusive alternatives to gendered group terms, how to correct pronoun mistakes without over-apologising, and how to “call in” rather than trigger defensiveness. They also discuss accessibility in communication and events, including considerations for deaf and hard of hearing audiences, and how inclusive design choices tend to benefit everyone.

Across the episode, the emphasis stays on empathy, accountability, and small practical shifts that build trust, belonging, and psychological safety in everyday interactions and organisational communications.

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Joanne Lockwood speaks with Dr Joel A Davis-Brown about what they call “queer genius”: the skills, values, and ways of navigating the world that many queer people develop through self-discovery, coming out, and living outside social norms.

They discuss how negative stereotypes and hostile narratives continue to shape how queer people are perceived, and why it matters to move from merely “including” queer characters or colleagues to recognising queer experience as culturally rich and socially valuable. The conversation explores community-building, interconnectedness, and how queer people often create connection and resilience despite legal, political, and social oppression.

Joanne and Joel also explore intersectionality, including Joel’s experiences as a Black queer man and Joanne’s perspective as a trans woman, touching on the different kinds of visibility, safety, and cognitive load that can come with being read as “different” in everyday life. They reflect on media representation, global political trends impacting LGBTQ+ rights, and the importance of equity when confronting intolerant views.

Overall, the episode invites listeners to challenge inherited assumptions, embrace authenticity, and rethink queer identity through an asset-based lens—highlighting what queer communities contribute to leadership, culture, and social change.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by workplace bullying expert Nicki Eyre to unpack what workplace bullying is, how it shows up day-to-day, and why it can be so difficult to evidence and challenge through formal routes.

They explore the spectrum of bullying behaviours—from incivility and exclusion through to intimidation and psychological manipulation—and the way repeated patterns and power dynamics can keep someone in a prolonged stress response. The conversation covers the legal and procedural gap in the UK around non-discriminatory bullying, the limitations of grievance processes, and how investigations can retraumatise those raising concerns when organisations focus on defensiveness rather than learning.

Nicki and Joanne also discuss the real impacts on wellbeing, including anxiety, depression, reduced confidence and self-esteem, and trauma responses that can persist long after someone leaves a role. They highlight the importance of trauma-informed approaches, early intervention and prevention, accountability alongside support for all parties, and the role of allies and collective voice in challenging harmful behaviour and pushing for change.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by diversity and inclusion consultant and clinical hypnotherapist Belinda Riley for a wide-ranging conversation about what it takes to go “beyond the barriers” that limit people at work.

They explore impostor feelings and limiting beliefs, including how they show up as self-doubt, fear of being found out, and a sense of not belonging. Belinda connects these experiences to systemic inequality, arguing that workplace structures and norms can reinforce “not enough” narratives for women and other underrepresented groups.

The discussion moves into practical inclusion work: how to create psychological safety for difficult conversations, how to recover when we cause harm, and why intent does not erase impact. They also challenge the myth of meritocracy, unpacking how hiring and promotion criteria can be shaped by bias and affinity, and why organisations need to design environments where people can thrive rather than trying to “fix” individuals.

Joanne shares lived experience as a trans woman, describing the effects of anti-trans rhetoric, safety concerns, and the cognitive load of navigating workplaces and public spaces. Together, they emphasise belonging, authenticity, and the role of allyship.

The episode closes with a look at changing ways of working, including lessons from COVID-19 about flexibility and access, and the opportunity for organisations to widen talent pools. Belinda highlights sponsorship as a high-impact approach to advancing equality, shifting accountability to those with influence and opening doors for those who have been excluded.

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Joanne Lockwood is joined by talent lead and podcast host Sophie Power to explore what it feels like to discover, in adulthood, that you have been “running on a different operating system” all along. Sophie shares her experience of being diagnosed as autistic in her early thirties, what it changed, and what it didn’t, as she reframed years of school, relationships, and work through a new lens.

The conversation unpacks how popular culture and workplace narratives can over-simplify autism into the “autistic savant” trope. Sophie discusses why the language of “superpowers” can be well-intended yet still put pressure on autistic people to prove their worth, and how traits like pattern recognition are often misunderstood or over-romanticised.

They also move from story to practical inclusion. Sophie and Joanne discuss simple, low-cost adjustments that help neurodivergent people thrive, from fidget tools and sensory-friendly lighting to clarity in processes and reducing unhelpful expectations around eye contact, handshakes, and interview performance. In recruitment specifically, Sophie argues for transparency, offering adjustments up front, and being consistent if interview questions are shared in advance.

Throughout, the episode returns to belonging, authenticity, and the idea that supportive environments benefit everyone, not just those who disclose a diagnosis.

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