What happens when we die, and how much of what we believe about heaven actually comes from the Bible?

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal look beyond pearly gates, clouds, harps, and other popular images of heaven. They explore where those ideas came from, what Scripture says about resurrection and eternity, and why faith does not always require certainty about what comes next.

Kade shares honestly about growing up without the assurance that heaven was real and how he eventually found peace in not knowing. Greg reflects on his belief that death does not have the final word, God’s love will not let us go, and heaven may be far more inclusive than many Christians have been taught.

Along the way, they discuss universalism, whether our beloved pets will be with us, the lasting power of love, and what it means to bring heaven into the here and now.

Perhaps heaven is not simply a reward waiting at the end of life. Perhaps eternity has already begun.

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What does conversion therapy actually do to a person?

In this deeply personal episode of Faith in 10, Dr. Gregory S. Neal shares his experience inside a religious conversion therapy program, where he was taught to repeat the words, “I am an abomination,” until shame became inseparable from his understanding of himself and God.

Greg reflects on the lasting spiritual and emotional wounds of conversion therapy, the dangerous ways shame can be mistaken for the voice of God, and the truth that finally helped him begin to heal: he did not need to become someone else to be loved by God.

Conversion therapy promised freedom through changing who he was. The gospel offered something infinitely better: the freedom to stand before God without disguise, apology, or fear.

God’s grace is sufficient. For Greg, for us, and for you.

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Content note: This episode includes personal accounts of conversion therapy, religious trauma, and anti-LGBTQ+ language.

Is hell really a place of eternal fire and punishment? Would a loving God condemn someone to endless torment, and is that actually what Jesus taught?

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal ask a question many Christians are afraid to voice: What if everything we have been taught about hell is wrong?

Together, they explore what the Bible actually says about hell, Jesus’ references to Gehenna, the influence of Dante’s Inferno, and the development of belief in eternal punishment. They also examine Christian annihilationism, universal salvation, and whether the limitless grace of God could ultimately include everyone.

For many LGBTQ+ Christians, hell has been more than a theological idea. It has been used as a weapon to frighten, shame, and control them. Greg shares how the threat of hell was used against him growing up, while Kade reflects on why a Christianity centered on escaping punishment never made sense to him.

Can a faith built on fear truly be faith? Does God’s grace end when we die? If God never gives up on us, could love and reconciliation remain possible beyond this life?

Join us for an honest, theological, personal, and occasionally humorous conversation about hell, death, fear, LGBTQ+ inclusion, universal salvation, and the grace of a God who never gives up on us.

The Inclusive Faith Podcast is hosted by Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal, a married gay Christian couple exploring faith, the Bible, church, marriage, and LGBTQ+ inclusion.

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Many Christians point to Matthew 19 as proof that Jesus defined marriage exclusively as between one man and one woman. But is that really what Jesus was saying?

In this Faith in 10 episode, Dr. Greg Neal examines the question Jesus was actually answering, what Genesis says about human companionship, and why these passages may offer a strong biblical case for same-sex marriage. Rather than condemning LGBTQ+ relationships, Scripture calls us to take covenant, fidelity, mutual care, and self-giving love seriously.

Jesus never condemned same-sex marriage. Perhaps the better question is not whether every marriage looks exactly like Adam and Eve, but whether two people have become faithful covenant partners who reflect the grace of God in their life together.

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What is it really like to be a gay pastor in the Christian church?

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, gay pastor Dr. Gregory S. Neal and his husband, Kade Rogers, share an honest conversation about LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church, the challenges of being a gay Christian leader, and their experiences serving together in ministry.

Greg and Kade discuss the pressure LGBTQ+ clergy face to represent an entire community, the criticism that often accompanies public advocacy, and the lasting impact of religious trauma and church rejection. They also reflect on what it means to lead an LGBTQ-affirming church, navigate disagreements within a congregation, and remain faithful to a calling when others question whether someone can be both gay and Christian.

Beyond the pulpit, they offer a glimpse into their everyday lives as a married gay couple in ministry, including the self-doubt, vulnerability, humor, and hope that shape their journey.

Whether you are an LGBTQ+ Christian, an affirming ally, someone healing from religious trauma, or simply curious about the experiences of queer people in the church, this conversation is for you.

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What are you waiting for?

Most of us live as though there will always be more time. We will make the phone call later, have the difficult conversation when the timing feels right, and tell people how much they mean to us the next time we see them.

But tomorrow is not promised.

In this personal Faith in 10 reflection, Kade considers what Psalm 90 means when it asks God to “teach us to number our days.” This is not an invitation to live in fear. It is an invitation to be present, love more intentionally, and say what matters while we still have the opportunity.

We cannot control how much time we receive, but we can decide how honestly and lovingly we live the day in front of us.

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What does the New Testament actually say about homosexuality?

In Part Two of our conversation about the Bible and homosexuality, Kade and Greg examine the three New Testament passages most often used to condemn LGBTQ+ people: 1 Corinthians 6:9–11, 1 Timothy 1:8–11, and Romans 1:20–27.

Together, they explore the Greek words malakoi and arsenokoitai, the cultural world in which these passages were written, and the translation choices that have shaped how Christians understand them. They also discuss why the word “homosexual” did not appear in an English Bible until 1946 and why that modern term does not accurately reflect the language or relationships being addressed in these ancient texts.

What did Paul mean by “natural” and “unnatural”? Does Romans 1 describe LGBTQ+ Christians today? And what does it mean that Jesus said nothing about homosexuality?

These passages have been mistranslated, misinterpreted, and used as weapons against LGBTQ+ people for generations. This episode asks us to read them more carefully, confront the harm they have caused, and recognize the beautiful diversity of people made in the image of God.

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The Bible & Homosexuality: The Old Testament

What does the Bible really say about homosexuality and LGBTQ+ people?

For generations, a small group of Bible verses has been used to condemn, exclude, and harm LGBTQ+ people. Often called the “clobber passages,” these scriptures are frequently presented as clear proof that the Bible rejects same-sex relationships. But is that what they actually mean in their original context?

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal examine the three Old Testament passages most often used in conversations about the Bible and homosexuality: Genesis 19, Leviticus 18:22, and Leviticus 20:13.

Together, they discuss:

• What the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is actually about
• Why sexual violence is not the same as a loving same-sex relationship
• How the historical and cultural context of Leviticus changes the conversation
• Why the original Hebrew wording matters
• How Bible translations can shape Christian beliefs about homosexuality
• The harm caused when Scripture is weaponized against LGBTQ+ people
• Greg’s experience of hearing these passages used during conversion therapy

This episode does not ignore difficult Bible verses. It examines them closely, asks what they meant to their original audiences, and considers whether they can honestly be applied to loving, mutual, and committed LGBTQ+ relationships today.

This is Part 1 of a two-part series on the Bible and homosexuality. Part 2 will examine the New Testament “clobber passages.”

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For generations, many Christians have been taught that faith is primarily about avoiding hell: believe the right doctrine, follow the right rules, never question religious authority, and do not step beyond the boundaries someone else has drawn.

In this Faith in 10, Dr. Gregory S. Neal examines how fear is used as a tool of religious control and how self-appointed gatekeepers claim the authority to decide who belongs to Christ.

But fear, threats, and exclusion are not the fruit of the Spirit.

The gospel is not built on terror, shame, or perfect theology. It is built on grace. Jesus repeatedly crossed religious boundaries, welcomed those others excluded, and challenged leaders who burdened people while claiming to control access to God.

Your questions do not scare God. Your doubts do not disqualify you. Your identity does not separate you from the love of Christ. The gatekeepers do not have the final word.

Jesus does.

The Inclusive Faith Podcast is hosted by Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal. Faith in 10 is our bonus series offering brief reflections on faith, Scripture, inclusion, and the church.

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What if everything you were taught about the rapture came from a much more recent interpretation than you realized?

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal examine the popular belief that Christians will suddenly disappear while everyone else is left behind. They explore where modern rapture theology came from, whether it is actually supported by Scripture, and how fear about the end times has been used to control people, raise money, and determine who is supposedly saved.

There is plenty of humor along the way, but beneath it is a serious question: What happens when Christianity becomes centered on fear?

Rather than living in anxiety about missing the rapture, Kade and Greg invite us to return to the heart of the gospel: loving God, loving our neighbors, and living faithfully in the world here and now.

Is the rapture biblical truth or a modern invention?

Let’s talk about it.

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