It was a vacation week for one of the co-hosts, but one that had Hollywood ties far outside of California.

Terry Lipshetz talks about his family vacation to South Dakota, which included stops at Badlands National Park and Wall Drug, locations of the 2020 Oscar-winning film "Nomadland," as well as Deadwood, which, of course, was the location for the HBO series of the same name.

"Barbie" and "Oppenheimer" are set to open this week as "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny" continues to underperform at the box office.

"Wham!" is a documentary on the group featuring pop icons George Michael and Andrew Ridgeley that you won't want to miss.

And the fifth season of "What We do in the Shadows" premieres July 13. Co-host Bruce Miller has interviews with Kirsten Schaal (The Guide), Harvey Guillén (Guillermo de la Cruz), Mark Proksch (Colin Robinson), Kayvan Novak (Nandor the Relentless) and Natasia Demetriou (Nadja of Antipaxos).

Finally, aside from the big blockbusters of the summer, there is a smaller movie gaining traction — "Sound of Freedom" starring Jim Caviezel as a special agent who tries to stop child sex trafficking.

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Streamed & Screened is a podcast about movies and TV hosted by Bruce Miller, a longtime entertainment reporter who is now the editor of the Sioux City Journal in Iowa and Terry Lipshetz, a senior producer for Lee Enterprises based in Madison, Wisconsin.

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Welcome everyone to another episode of streamed and screened and entertainment podcasts about movies and TV from Lee Enterprises. I'm Terry Lipschitz is senior producer Lee and co-host of the program with Bruce Miller, editor of the Sioux City Journal and longtime entertainment reporter who has been working a heck of a lot harder than I have in the last week because I am back from vacation.

What is this deal? You get a vacation and you take a vacation from watching movies.

Come on. I have yeah, I have watched the fall.

Movies are a vacation.

That's right. But when that's part of your job description, I have to.

Stop. I am watching around the clock things that you haven't even thought of yet. I've seen. That's how. How intense it is. And they don't take a break. There really should be a week where they go nap. No new movies this week. Nothing happening? No, no TV shows. Just sit still. Do whatever you want to do at home.

You know, that is that sort of exists in sports because that's actually the the genesis of the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue started coming out in February because it was it was that time of the year when there was nothing. It was it was after the NFL's season. It was before spring training. Yeah, there's hockey and basketball still going on, but it's like, you know, you can only tell so many stories there.

So we're going to do a swimsuit issue. So that's what that is. And even in sports right now, it's a little bit of a dead time because we're at the Major League Baseball All-Star break. So there's the Home Run Derby, there's the All-Star Game, but there's really not a lot of sports. But yeah, you're right. There's not a not a true break in the movie entertainment world.

A swimsuit edition. Yeah. Yeah. Great for us. And then we just look at the pictures and that's all we care about.

But my my vacation, though, I didn't get away from the movies completely because we went. We packed up the minivan, we got the kids inside, and we headed west and we headed west. And we started seeing signs for see the the costumes and sets for Dances with Wolves and stop in, said Larry. What's that?

It's just.

Prairie. Do you just drag through it?

I've seen it.

It's good. Yeah, but we all drug.

We stopped it while drug. Yeah, because we stopped at the Badlands, which of course was a major plot point for the movie. Nomadland.

So you said, Would you please tell Frances McDormand that I want a double egg fried on wheat toast?

Right. I had a donut. That's all. I had it while drug. I had.

Free water.

Fabulous. I did not get any free water. No.

Oh, darn.

Darn.

Did you see the jackalope?

Yes, I did.

Okay. And they have like a mini Mount Rushmore in the back that you could always with. And I think you can get on. You can like I think there's a dinosaur there, too. If I remember right.

Yeah. At the exit. I know there was one dinosaur at the exit to get off and yeah, it's a pretty neat little place.

Well, can I give you a little spoiler alert?

Okay.

The spoiler alert in the new movie Joy Ride. One of the things they talk about is going to South Dakota or a second vacation. Oh, so if there's a sequel to Joy Ride, they're going to South Dakota.

Interesting. Interesting. And we ended up also in Deadwood, which was the location of or the setting, rather, one of my favorite HBO series of all time. Also called Deadwood. And it was it was fascinating to me because everything was named after, you know, a real life person who I also recognize recognized. Yeah, right, exactly. We did see the like the saloon where he was killed.

Was the virgin.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Calamity Jane, did you see anything with her?

We went up to the cemetery where Jane is buried right next to Bill. So we saw that. We saw some place. I don't even know it was like a deli or something. It. It was called Mr. Woo's from that character from the show. We saw the Gem Saloon. We saw a former brothel. They're doing tours there now, but you have to be at least 16 to enter.

So we could go in there, but it was open for the canteen. So yeah, we it was open from 1876 to 1980 until it was shut down by federal agents.

Oh, no, that's not the Ronald Reagan probably did it, right?

No, right, exactly.

And said, we can't have this.

We can't. No. So it was a fun little trip. And, you know, we saw the saw the sights and Mount Rushmore.

And did you were you in that kind of entry area where we we saw north by northwest, they redid the visitor's center. So it is did we the same But if you go now if you continued West and gone to Los Angeles the Academy museum for the Academy Awards has the backdoor out that they used in north by northwest of Mount Rushmore.

And did you not? I took a picture in front of that thing and I posted on social media and friend said, Weber, you had South Dakota? Well, I wasn't in South Dakota. I was at the backdrop of Mount Rushmore. So now my goal is, is to go there this year and actually take the picture so that it's angled just as much as it is or that backdrop.

And you can see but it is really weird because North by Northwest has been on TCM recently and when you watch, you go, Wow, this does look like a sad it looks real sad like. But I remember many years we'd hear stories about people who were extras in North by Northwest because they did shoot a part of it there.

And they talk about, you know, all I remember when Cary Grant came out and you think, boy, does that ever leave an impression? People people hang on this step a long time. So if you ever have a movie made in your town just know people will be talking about it 30 years from now.

I do want to go back though, now and watch Nomadland. It's been a couple of years and that movie, I don't know what you thought of it, but for me, that's probably one of my favorite award season kind of movies from the last decade. It was I thought it was just horribly depressing, but in some ways just a beautifully done movie too.

I never knew that there were people like that who were traveling around and just kind of living on the edge and that I thought, What could I do that? Could I be one of those nomads and then I talked to one of the people who are featured in the movie. She said, You could do it, you could do it.

It's a matter of getting rid of stuff. That's the big problem We hold on to way too much. And if you get it down to what you absolutely, positively need, you could go anywhere and do that and have that life. Now they don't get that choice. You know, a lot of times it's just there is no money there to to own a house or to rent a place or something like that.

So they they live on this on this edge and then go where, you know, the sun is. Because if you're in some cold place like here, it ain't easy being, you know, nomadic in the Midwest, right?

So you just need to get rid of all the crap in your basement.

And there's so much of it. I've been adding more because we're moving. Get the office by bringing in more crab haul because they don't want to throw it right away. I bet I'll look at it. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's the archives of the movie industry for the last 50 years. That's what it.

Is. That's what it is.

It's too much crap. And now new stuff coming. You know, yesterday in Los Angeles, they premiered Barbie and Barbie. Sounds like it's going to be huge. And I kid you not. It's going to be huge because it's getting good reviews. It has the backing of Mattel. So, you know, they're going to look for every dime they can find out of this.

And it's going to be kind of snarky and funny. And they say that can play by Ryan Gosling steals the movie.

I'm looking forward to this one. I mean, my daughters have been talking about it. And I think my wife was just going to be like, we'll leave dad at home for this one. I'll take the girls. Yeah, I'm like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to see this one.

Well, and you know, have you seen the the Oppenheimer Barbie mash ups? Because they both open on the same day and they've been doing goofy posters for the two together. It's very cute. Check out Social media. You'll find the Barbie Oppenheimer Duo.

Oh, I've got to I have to check that one out. Now, there's another film, which I am trying to get to see it, but it is not doing so hot right now at the theater, is it open number one? And then it this this past week it got knocked down to two by Insidious And it's like I mean, is this thing even going to recoup its money?

Indiana Jones in the dial Destiny.

I think it will. No, I think it will. I don't worry about it. You haven't seen it yet. So let me tell you that it holds up. It's too long. And they do this de-aging thing with Harrison Ford, where there's a big, huge action sequence at the beginning that I think because they wanted to make you maybe remind you of what Indiana Jones was like, but either it's a stunt man with his face superimposed on it, and then De-Aged it looks good.

It really I didn't feel like I was being duped or anything. It wasn't like it was the Polar Express, but it moves. It kind of borrows from the other ones. So you'll say, Well, this is kind of a plot point I've seen before, but it does have a number of return visits from friends. So you'll meet those people and there's an ending that makes you feel like, Yeah, I think Harrison can bow out now.

I think he's okay. But I enjoyed it. I thought it was, you know, he was too long. But I always say that about every movie. And yeah, I was fine with it. I did not. It was this. This. Oh, God, we can't go to that. I think they always get the first big week because they don't put anything big up against it.

But the second week, if you're going up against a horror film, come on. A horror film. The kid, the place is packed. When I went to see Joy right now, well, I'm not going to have to worry about Joy Ride because they're not going to see that. It was insidious. They were lined up. The kids are all over the place to see this thing, and it's horror films.

That's what they love. Yeah.

I think the other thing too, that you pointed out, the kids are lined up, right? The kids were not lined up to go see Indiana Jones. That one I had read had really skewed Gen-X and older. And it's rare because because moviegoer kids today are predominantly younger. So that one was it was almost like two thirds were 4045 and are going to see Indiana Jones and I looked at Rotten tomatoes the tomatometer on it from critics 69%.

So it's not terrible. It's not it's not like completely panned by the critics. The audience score 88%. So it's it's getting a solid reception from the people that are going to see it. It's just the audience that you would normally expect, like the last one, because I think the Last Crusade, which was the third movie and probably one of my favorite in the franchise was Sean Connery in it that won top Batman the year it came out.

You know, you couldn't expect this to be huge because it's too late. It should have been a lot sooner. I don't know that there is all that kind of interest in Indiana, even at Disney, where they have like a stunt show and then they've got a ride at Disneyland and they're not that popular. And so I don't know that, you know, I think it's more of a button that they want to put a button on the end of this thing.

And they could easily reboot the series if they wanted to in a different way. But they're not giving up anything that could be potential money. And so they probably spend too much on it. I would have made it 90 minutes because I think it would seem more like a serial, and I think it could have been just as good.

But hey, you know, Spielberg wasn't in on it. Lucas wasn't directing, you know, So that is what it is. But I enjoyed it. And maybe that's probably why The Rotten Tomatoes was up a little bit. That was my vote. I probably skewed it. It's not bad. It is not one of those ones where you go, Oh, will grandma like it?

We'll send grandma to this one. It isn't. It isn't one of those Clint Eastwood kind of things where you go, Yeah, this is just exactly like the kind of movie somebody who goes once a year should see. It's it's a way, for those of you who have seen Indiana Jones like Indiana Jones, to kind of finish it off.

Okay, You can't watch Lord of the Rings without seeing the third one.

We're introducing our kids to Indiana Jones right now. We got through Raiders of the Lost Ark. We got through Temple of Doom. Between the vacation and the fact that I want my kids to understand what Indiana Jones is before we take them is just kind of what's been slowing us down a little bit there, too. So where were.

Yes, they absolutely loved it. And even though it's a little bit more intense, a little bit more in some scenes, scary, they kind of equate it with national treasure in a sense, because it's got that similar history looking for relics kind of thing. So they they really love the national Treasure movies. So I can't explain to them. It's like it's a little bit like that to a degree, but, you know, a little bit more violent.

Love, though, how they always get the right clue, you know? Are they always able to? Yeah. Okay. This is the one that. What about a false clue where it sends them off on a real goose chase and they can't figure out what's going on. They don't do those in those kind of movies. They don't do that in this one either.

But, you know, yeah, I, I think they'll like it. But just now, two and a half hours.

Two and a half large beverage. Yep. Well, we got the bucket. The bucket of was ready to go.

That's all.

You need. All we need a big bucket of popcorn. So we're also middle of the summer. We are getting a steady stream of new TV shows popping out here and there. And there's another one and you've got some interviews with that. So can you talk a little bit about what's coming up?

Sure. Well, I just give you one little quick one to watch on Netflix. Sure. I think this will fit in your wheelhouse since you've been away from these things. It's a documentary on Wham and it is really fascinating because you tend to cut Andrew Ridgeley short and you don't think that he did that much. And you realize that it never could have happened without him.

It's a remarkable quick documentary that you don't see them now. You don't see them. They just you just hear them talking over footage from that time and what was going on and the things that they were worried about and how they. Yeah, one of the my favorite things was they had this last Christmas said they were going to have four number one hits in one year and they were all excited that they were going to have the number one Christmas song that year.

And then there was the be like USA for Africa British version. That was a Christmas song. And George sang on it, but it didn't they didn't get the number one hit and they realized that that was not necessary. We didn't see that. What the big thing was is that we were giving money to a cause that helped. But it's fascinating and how they all evolved from this because it was like they were 19 and 20 years old and they were thrust in the middle of all of it.

But that's it's wham, it's on Netflix as one you want to see.

Is it a just a single movie or multi-episode?

It's just one. It's a documentary one. Okay. Not even 2 hours. I think it's 90 when you Yeah, when you look at it on the thing, it looks like, oh, is this some kind of teeny bop thing that they're trying to do? It's not. It's a very well-done documentary, but don't expect to see interviews with them looking like, you know, all their old you don't see the old versions of either of them.

But they both do talk throughout the whole thing.

And. Well, and unfortunately, George Michael passed away in 2016. So but I guess, you know, they could have even brought some some more modern footage into it.

But know what, I, I think there's a whole other documentary that could be done about George Michael Post Wham!

Mm.

And you'll see how he was huge with that. But what was remarkable is that he never really got that the street cred from the business. I looked at 1 to 2 Grammys in his whole career. Come on. You know, this is one they're going to be doing a Bohemian Rhapsody about. At some point there's going to be a good George Michael movie that some actor is going to want to make because there's just so much there to uncover.

But yeah, that's one that you you should put in your list. And also starting this week is the BFI season what we do in the shadows about the vampires from your homeland?

My homeland of Staten Island, New York.

Yeah. Not Transylvania. No, but yes. And you've never watched this?

I have it. No, no. Some of those shows I'll catch like half of them. And then the other half just kind of completely elude me. Like I'm into shows. Like. Like Dave. Because that's an artifact show, right? And there's a few others that pop out there, like Fargo. I think that was an F show, right When that one's right on TV.

Did you watch Dave this year?

Yes.

Yes, I did. You see the Brad Pitt episode? Yes.

Yes. That is some of the funniest TV ever.

They're talking Brad Pitt for best. That's the former performer for that role. And I thought he was great.

Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that was I it was just a a bet. You know what?

Crazy, right?

The episode with Ray Stalker and what was his name? He like? He's like, no, no call. You can actually call me. And I can't remember what it was. Yes. My real name and then I had to Google is like, is that really his name? It it is a.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Did you watch the the bear?

I have not quite started the bear yet. That is that is like waiting for me now that I'm back from vacation to start diving into it.

Okay. Well when you get to the Jamie Lee Curtis episode, you will see the winner of next year's Emmy for best guest performance. Jamie has never been better. She plays the mother and she is unbelievable in that. And it's about I think it's episode six. But you want to ask now back to my what we do in the shadows, because you must see this if you haven't gotten involved.

You know, it's odd that something like Dave and something like the Bear the Bear can be considered comedies.

Right.

When this is out. Now, comedy, this is just unreal. Well, it's about these vampires living in Staten Island, and they have a familiar Guillermo who helps one of them and then really, in exchange wants to become a vampire and they kind of, you know, dangle the carrot before him and like, yeah, yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.

Well, this season, he doesn't want to wait anymore. He doesn't want to have to hold on to, you know, whatever. So he becomes a little more independent and that forces them to be a little more independent, too. They go to the mall for the first time, which is interesting. Last year, Colin Robinson, who was the the energy vampire, and you have these at work, I'm sure, Right.

Well, you suck all the energy out of you. And, you know, they stand around your desk. You say, oh, please, go away. Please, please, please do not stand here. Don't ask me anything. Well, last year he had died the year before, and then last year came back as a baby. Colin Robinson. Then, then adolescence and Colin Robinson, then teenage Colin Robinson.

Well, now he's back to being himself and he's kind of as surly energy vampire at this point. And he works at a restaurant. And if you've ever had a surly waiter, this is Colin Robinson, you'll enjoy that. So he's back. But then the other one's Nadia. Last year had a restaurant of her own where people like Sofia Coppola traffic there and everything.

It all kind of went to hell. And so she's trying to pick up the pieces after the restaurant or the nightclub has closed. And Nandor, who is the boss of Guillermo, had Trouble with Love last year and is kind of searching this year, looking for where he might fit in at what will be his place, what will he be able to do.

And the guide, played by Kristen Schaal, is in this as a regular this year, and she is she becomes friendly with odd, different people. So there's a very big mix of characters and you'll get a chance to kind of see them in different settings. There is no one, I think one plotline that kind of carries through you just every time just go and you're going to enjoy politics becomes part of it.

So if you know anything about politics in Staten Island, it might be worth your while to watch that. But I had a chance to talk to five of the actors. Well, yeah, and you'll hear a little bit about what they have to say about this season and what prompted some, because I had quite longstanding questions that I wanted to know the answers to.

Nadia Neistat, Natasha, who plays Nadia, has this little doll that's kind of a doppelganger for her, and the doll is a ghost. It's as this is so complicated, you must watch it from the beginning. But the ghost kind of comes through that doll. And I asked her about playing with the doll, and I asked Harvey about the changes that he has as Guillermo and then the energy vampire and what that really means to everybody.

So there's a lot there to to unpack. Hopefully we'll be able to and hopefully you'll be able to tell who's talking at what time.

Okay, so let's set this up. So we I know with the interviews you had one set of interviews with three of them and then and then so who we want to go to first.

We'll start with Kristen Schaal and Harvey Guillén and who are Guillermo and The Guide. And they talk about the really the trick to being successful in a series like this and also what secret they've learned about being character actors. You are you have such a life where you're able to pop in and do whatever you want and it's like, what is I mean, right, Harvey Isn't.

That the way she is? I was ecstatic when we were lucky enough to get this. And like, I said this before, but I'm such a fan and I fanboy over her and quoted I met her at a party first beforehand and was already like an on then found out at the party that she's friends with Germain and stuff and and they had worked together obviously before and we got lucky enough that we were able to have her come play with us and then to have to come back again and to be recurring on this show and be such an addition, we're just lucky enough to have her.

And and I'm still a fanboy.

And say, Harvey, what is your Venmo handle.

That.

That is how it is done. It is done.

So so please do it.

Is it fun to be with them because they are. I have never seen a show that seems like it's this exciting.

It is the most exciting thing in the world. I mean, it every every episode is having something dumb, a spectacle, something that's never been done before, something that you'll come to work and you know you're going to be doing something you've never done before and you'll never do again penance. So rather you're going to be being with Richards, you're going to be watching, you're going to be staying irreverent things and and you're going to be doing it with some of the best people in comedy.

So my one of my most favorite jobs that ever had and I'm really proud of the show, too. Like I sometimes I'm proud of myself, but I get a little shy around some of them, but this one, because it's such a beast of hilarity every time someone they love the show, I go crazy too.

But does the guide have a name?

Well, so the guide had a name, but she forgot it.

So.

We can call her. And what's the deal with Familiars? Why doesn't everybody have a familiar?

Hmm. I think a lot of people do have familiars. I think that, you know, we look at the workforce and a lot of people are familiars in a way. They are longing to be promoted, they are overlooked, they are underpaid, underappreciated and kind of slave to labor to get that big promotion, to break that, you know, door open.

And sometimes it is come and sometimes you, you know, build a life around the career that you think will be a big payoff at the end. And it doesn't work that way. So I think gear represents a lot of us in that way where we see ourselves in Guillermo because, yeah, we've all been there. We've all been in love with someone maybe from afar, that we can express, having been real with our, you know, our honest, our feelings about something or our sexuality, our, you know, our overlooked for something at work, hate our boss or upset or our coworkers or I hate having roommates.

Like it's very relatable just because it's all human storylines with the I.

Just you covered all of us in him, right? He is.

Like, Yeah, this is it.

But you know, the strange thing is this was a real big break for you, right? How has your life changed after this? Because this is unbelievable. I remember when we first met you and it was like you couldn't believe that you were getting the job, and now you're on everything.

I still can't believe I am getting the check. Yeah, it's been an amazing, you know, launch pad, I guess you could say, with the show. And I didn't really think about the longevity of the show when I first started. I, you know, we got past the pilot because I really love the show so much. And to go back on season one and then season two and find out last season that we got picked up our season three to be up at ten for six seasons or two seasons out next, which is incredible.

And it's just such a gift, especially in this day and age. I feel like that's incredible. And, and yeah, I, you know, it's basically, you know, the show that I get recognition for other projects that in voiceover or live action or theatrical or whatever it is it's like I'm such a fan and would you love we would love for you to play this role.

And lucky enough that I've been playing different things a year or more, which is really nice because it would be easy to just kind of get stuck on one thing. But I'm very fortunate, very grateful to this show and and loved doing it. What was success.

Where you thought it would.

Be? I mean, what is success? You know, I feel like in my head I always wanted to act and and make a living off of that. And I think as long as you're happy doing it, even if it's a room of 99 seater or 2 million people and through a movie screen or a television screen, then you're giving it your best.

I always pride myself in doing the work that I would do regardless of the budget or the popularity of the project. As long as I can walk away from the project saying I gave that my best and I can say that I did my best, that's all I can do.

Yeah, well, Henry, I think you always been ready to be a star.

This is my mom. You see, Kristin, Rosalie, this. This going to ask.

You how much money you don't know, right?

Yeah. My Venmo is going to go through the roof that.

It's at orange it. But, Kristen, you are always busy, you're always working. And I don't know. What I can say is the reason other than you're really good at it. But is there something is there a secret to this that, you know, everybody wants to work with you? What is that?

She's amazing and everybody wants to work with you. So it's it's an easier thing to do when you work with someone as talented like Kristen at five in the morning after working 12 hours or 14, 15 hour days on set and you never want to bump into someone in the hallway that you want to be like, gosh. And every time you move into Kristen, her energy is so positive they can go another 12 hours if you need to, because that's the kind of energy and talent you want to be surrounded with.

So it's easy for me anyways. Anyways, I took.

A lot to pay out. Okay, lot the back.

But what is it? Is it because you bring a different sensibility to these roles or what is it?

Well, you know, I'm I li one of the things that I that is really exciting is yeah, like my friend Jemaine wrote the World Apart for me to be on his show and and remembered me from way back when. And and I find that when I get invited to play on different shows, it's usually to, to play roles that are going to be different and a little bit weird.

I like to think that I am really brave when I act and I'll just do whatever people say. Maybe that'll go down well, but well, if you have that much, I can't. I couldn't tell you what it is without saying that I'm the best actress in the world. No, I don't know. I.

You know, what? Can I tell you what I think the key was, both of you, is that you really love character parts. And too often I think people get into the business where they think I need to be the leading man. I need to be the the, you know, the debutante, whatever it might be. And you guys just find these characters that are so good that you can sink your teeth in, pardon the pun, and really enjoy.

And I think that's the trick, is that when these kids come out of these acting schools, they don't realize it. The best parts are not the leading man or the leading woman.

Bruce, don't print that. Now you do that. You did that. I, I think you and Mark Blackwood's approach could have stayed the same thing. Like, oh, being a character actor is the best gig in the business because the characters are always going to be different and unique and fun then, as opposed to the leading man or woman has to start to relate to a bigger audience.

But we get to play like very offbeat when we get to do the weirdest things. And we also don't have to see our faces on screen the whole time, and that feels good to get to.

All right, Bruce, thanks for that interview. Now, you also have an interview with three more actors. Can you set that game?

Tires? Come on, you don't tires.

Oh, I'm sorry.

All the time. So a three vampire kind of thing is is, I think, a trifecta. You get that there. So this time you're going to hear Mark Proksch, who plays Colin Robinson, and then you'll hear Kayvan Novak, who plays Nandor, and then Natasia Demetriou, who plays Nadja. And they are they interplay a lot on the show. So you'll see them interacting a lot on the series this season.

But here they are together, so good luck for me, right? You know, trying to sort all this out. But it's what we do in the shadows. And this is another set of vampires. Yeah. I'm Bruce Miller from the Sioux City Journal. You know, I looked at all of the the episodes they let us see. And I realize that this season is a lot about change.

Do you see that, too, that there's a lot of change in all of your characters?

So yeah, why not? I think, you know, our characters are always evolving, devolving and, you know, that's part of what makes the show appealing, I guess.

Change like, well, why does Nandor always go back to the the health club to find his changes?

You'd have to ask Nando that. I think you know he's it goes back to that was you know because he likes.

Doing weights man he likes being around other dudes.

And getting sweaty and like, you know, flexing his muscle.

That's the secret. That's easy. But Mark, you had the biggest the biggest shift from last year. How was that that season even? Were you even around that much or how was that how did that play out?

No, I wasn't around all that much. I filmed almost all of the the child sequences back in Los Angeles. And it wasn't until I hit well, Colin.

Hits puberty, I guess.

That I was on set and back. It was that was really exciting. I mean, it breathes some fresh air into the character for me, just like being.

Back this year was a breath of fresh.

Air for me and getting to be back with, you know, my friends and and acting against.

Them. You also a big change, though, in terms of potential career. There is an episode where you consider something else, and I don't want to say anything for fear of being killed, but you know, talk about vampires. There you are.

Yeah. And you know, what better place than politics for an energy vampire to cast its web? Yeah. I mean, this year was that there is a lot of change, and Colin is still trying to get his feet back underneath him and kind of get his groove back, I guess you would say. And, you know, there is some love interest there for him.

You know, at the beginning of the season, he's a waiter. Then he goes into politics and then there's another little shift at the end of the season. So it's it's a fun season.

I think, for all actors. I missed the nightclub, I got to say, not just was just wonderful. Do you miss it as much.

As I do?

Yeah, I was. I did similarly love it as a like, just as like, I guess as an actor, just there are certain sets that are really like, comfortable and fun to hang out on and fell. And that set was, was definitely one of those, unlike the attention to detail, maybe a little bit the fact that my name was in lights wherever I looked really, really lapping and being in that space.

So. And did you make.

Did you take anything from that set?

I did know to take a lot of napkins. Well, they basically like they properly, as always on this show, the set designers and props people like went above and beyond and all the not like napkins, bar mat straws like covered with my name. So I did take a few all those things and I still have my eye on one of the like big signs and lights.

But I also you've got to check yourself with this stuff. What you going to do, put off in your own house?

Yeah, of course you do.

Too, I think. I think my friends and family would disown me if I started, you know, one too many portraits of yourself in your own house. You know what I mean? I've already got about 15, so.

You know, And there's never too many. There's never too many. Why does Nandor add the only familiar? Why doesn't everybody else have a familiar.

I think, Laszlo, in that you did have a family. I think we had a series of families, but they kept dying, right?

Yeah, that was it. Kind of left off.

Do you just kind of let them go or decant You applied for new ones?

I mean, I think we probably heard, but we kept having a really hard time. They kept dying and really disgusting ways. And then we got so far who obviously, I think lips and they sort of a sweatshop underground and you're a slow they're kind of each other's Nadia in a weird way I think and they're also way less codependent than Nando and I think the reason why Nando still has a family and still has, you know him around is because it's Gamow.

It's because of their very, very intense friendship passes relationship.

But this could be the, you know, the end of that. So I'm just putting that out there. There there could be some trouble just saying. Right. And why is Nandor never happy?

It's a good question. He's been a miserable as any for quite a few seasons now, um, which are quite like playing, I think playing miserable is easier than playing kind of incredibly happy all the time. Um, he's searching, man. He's lost, you know, He's a lost soul. He doesn't know what he wants.

Is know where to get get it.

You know? Yeah. Mo makes him happy. But now again, why makes him sad?

Yeah, You want to hug him. And even though you think that'd be the person, you probably hug because he is kind of intimidating, right? Right there. The hug is there for you. I just know it's there right after this. Many years, though, do you guys say, how long can we do this show?

No, really. I mean, I think it's you know, it's still super funny. I think this last season, that's the season about that's about to drop is one of our funniest seasons. And I there's some examples of shows that keep going and keep being hilarious Like always Sunny in Philadelphia has been on for three seasons and it's still funny and inventive.

And as brilliant as it was day one, if not better. But when you started this, did you think it was going to be this long? No.

No Day and age?

No. Because, you know, all experience I'd had up until this was like, you do a pilot, does it even make it to television? Probably not. And then you're like, like at the end of season one, I was genuinely like, my cards was so sincere and like, it's been, you know, like because I was like, I'm never going to see these people again.

This is it, you know, like, it's so generous with morale. And then and then like, Oh, we're coming back. And I honestly, I just don't have a point of reference to say, you know, like, yeah, there'll be a season two and three, you know, you know. So yeah, it's, it's, it, it's really like sometimes I can't believe it when I think about it.

Yeah, well.

I think it could keep on going forever because vampires last come on a show about vampires could last two.

Thank you, Bruce, for those interviews. It sounds like a good season, and I think you're right. I got to go back and we got to start watching this. Yeah. Staten Island, baby. That's where I'm from. One of the five boroughs in New York City.

More than anybody. You are going to love this thing. And there's a movie that started the whole works and then it led into this series. But you must watch it and then you'll be asking questions. Say, was the one playing that person. You know, it's it's it's very fascinating. And you think, where are they going to go with this?

How could they keep going? But you could because everything is kind of a new a new world for that, even going out in the daylight. Another and it you know something I don't think I ever see. So we're good. But I want to mention one more thing before we before we log off for the week. Here's a movie that did not really have any kind of premium.

Let's see. I mean, people talk about it as that. But is this going to be it's called the Sound of Freedom. And Jim Caviezel, if you don't know who that is, he starred in The Passion of the Christ as Jesus. And like his good friend Mel Gibson, he likes doing issue films. And this is about child sex trafficking.

And it is getting huge audiences. Now, I don't know if there's like an underground of people saying, You must go see this film, but it's a hard watch because of the topic, and yet it does get you talking about the subject. So if you're looking for something and you haven't figured out where do I, what should I go see?

I don't want to see Indiana Jones. It might be something that you're interested in. I went to Joy Ride and I was shocked at how funny it was. Joy Ride was incredibly funny, but so dirty. This is the hard hour show that I thought our feelings was going to be. There are things in that movie that my mouth is still dropped open, but fascinating.

And it could be another one of those ones that cracks the the door for Asian actors because it's largely an all Asian cast. And they tell stories that are, you know, interesting. I've not heard it before and fun. And it's like watching The Hangover, but it's an Asian female hangover. Japanese shoe is in it. Yeah, Lee Park is in it.

So, you know, they they're starting to get big names. I thought, oh God, they're going to have Michelle Yeoh be in here somewhere. Right. But she wasn't so they're, they're branching out and I think we're doing a better job of that. But it's fun. It's fun, but it is a hard, hard. R And you can tell it's a hard hour because the previews are all hard are previews and you go, They can't do that in a preview, can they?

And they do.

Is that the one where they give you that instead of the green.

And the Red Band is the Red Band trailer.

That's right.

Okay.

All right, Bruce, thanks again. Another great episode in the books. And we will be back again next week with another episode of Streamed and screened.

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