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Episode 3: The Cost of No Standards

What happens when radon and vapor intrusion work goes unregulated? In this episode of the Indoor Environments Podcast, host Diane Swecker explores the real-world risks of operating without consistent standards, certification, or licensing.

She’s joined by two industry leaders:

• Jane Malone, National Policy Director at the Indoor Environments Association, with more than 40 years of experience in housing and environmental health.
• Kyle Hoylman, CEO and Co-Founder of Protect Environmental, longtime advocate for radon safety, and Chair of the Kentucky Board of Radon Safety.

Together, they break down:

• The difference between certification and state licensure
• Why standards matter for professionals, regulators, and consumers
• What can go wrong when unqualified contractors do the work
• How federal programs and national certifications fill the gaps in unregulated states
• The future of credentialing and enforcement across the U.S.

Whether you’re a radon professional, policymaker, or simply care about healthy housing, this episode makes clear why standards are essential—and what it costs us when they’re missing.

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Because better air starts with better professionals.

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In this episode of The Indoor Environments Project, we’re taking a step back—and a big step forward.

Join us for a fascinating conversation with Zan Jones, a longtime advocate, educator, and leader in the radon industry, as we explore the history of radon, how the industry first took shape, and where it’s headed next.

We’ll cover:

• How radon was first “discovered” in homes (spoiler: it was almost by accident)
• The pivotal moments that shaped the radon and indoor air quality industry
• The biggest wins—and challenges—we’ve faced as a profession
• What the future holds for radon,  and environmental health
• The critical role of the next generation of professionals

Plus, Zan shares the one word that describes the future of our industry: Radiant.

Whether you’re a seasoned professional or just curious about the air you breathe, this episode is packed with insight, perspective, and inspiration for what comes next.

The Indoor Environments Project is brought to you by the Indoor Environments Association—advancing science, policy, and professionalism in radon, vapor intrusion, and indoor air quality.

Support the show

The Indoor Environment Project is brought to you by the Indoor Environments Association—advancing science, policy, and professionalism in radon, vapor intrusion, and indoor air quality.

📬 Got feedback, questions, or a story to share? Email us at [email protected]!
💡 Subscribe to stay updated on future episodes—and don’t forget to leave a review if you enjoyed the show!
🌐 Learn more about our work at indoorenvironments.org.

Because better air starts with better professionals.

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Welcome to the premiere episode of The Indoor Environments Project, the podcast where we explore the evolving world of indoor air quality. 

In this debut, we’re joined by two industry rockstars: Joshua Kerber, Environmental Research Scientist with the Minnesota Department of Health, and Chad Robinson, founder of Building Performance Co., veteran mitigator and educator from Kansas State University’s Regional Radon Training Center. Together, they’ve seen it all—and they’re here to talk about the most outrageous, head-scratching, and humbling radon challenges of their careers.

🎧 We dig into:
 • “Problem houses” that defy diagnostics
 • How pros can build resilience, stay ethical, and keep learning

And in case you were wondering: yes, both Chad and Josh say their rig anthem is Don’t Stop Believin’. After hearing their stories, you’ll understand why.

Whether you’re a radon veteran or just getting started in the field, this episode brings a mix of humor, real talk, and practical wisdom that hits home.

The Indoor Environment Project is brought to you by the Indoor Environments Association—advancing science, policy, and professionalism in radon, vapor intrusion, and indoor air quality.

Support the show

The Indoor Environment Project is brought to you by the Indoor Environments Association—advancing science, policy, and professionalism in radon, vapor intrusion, and indoor air quality.

📬 Got feedback, questions, or a story to share? Email us at [email protected]!
💡 Subscribe to stay updated on future episodes—and don’t forget to leave a review if you enjoyed the show!
🌐 Learn more about our work at indoorenvironments.org.

Because better air starts with better professionals.