Inner and Outer Worlds Podcast

Are DMT entities actually real? Science officially cares enough to start performing experiments to find out. In this episode us bros dive into the paper entitled "Traces of the Other: DMT Phenomenology in the Framework of Conscious Realism" by leading DMT and Conscious Realism Scientists Dr. Andrew Gallimore (@AlienInsect), Dr. Donald Hoffman, and Dr. Niffe Hermansson. Dr. Hanania goes hard in describing different theories of reality and in guiding us through this paper which focuses on how the theory of conscious realism fits in attempting to explain how we realistically could be accessing other entities (aka "conscious agents") during DMT trips, and the two of us discuss these implications. We also cover what experiments they are planning on doing on the "other side" while people are tripping to prove the existence of these entities as autonomous conscious agents and not just as a trippy figment of our imagination.

In this episode of Inner and Outer Worlds, Jordan reflects on a wholesome weekend at the beautiful 2026 InnerSpace Retreat, hosted by our friends Days of Lavender Music. This weekend was full of sound baths, yoga, meditation, delicious health food and various musical acts performed throughout the weekend by Days of Lavender , Forrest Mortifee, Navin Sahj Paul , and more.

The bros also reflect on how revitalizing the 2025 InnerSpace Retreat was last year, and get into the concept of retreats and how needed wholesome experiences are in adulthood. Maybe, just maybe, they'll plant a seed in your brain for you to go check one out some day - Kool-aid not required.

In part 2 of our state-change mini-series, Z&J dive deep into how the things we focus on, the language we use to assign meanings to events, and the self-talk we have with ourselves forms an identity - and how focus, meanings and self-talk has the ability to energize us or deplete us.In the episode, we get into a study done by Stanford University on Tony Robbins events and how the formula of State Change, Story Change, then Strategy Change can create lasting change due to neuroplasticity, especially when it comes to depression and anxiety.We discuss how certain types of meditations, plant medicines/psychedelics, learning new things, exercise and deep sleep also create the perfect condition for neuroplasticity (aka change in our lives!)It is through Exercise, Learning, Deep Sleep, Psychedelic Therapy, and certain meditative practices that we can enter a state of neuroplasticity, and when we follow this state with the right Focus, Self-Talk, and Assigned Meanings to Events, we can far more easily and permanently make lasting change in our lives, to overcome depression, anxiety, bad habits, addictions, or phobias.Join us as we get into the exciting concept of changing ourselves! Change is always possible. It just requires neuroplastic states of mind to be entered first (through physiological changes), and THEN followed up by telling new, more beneficial stories, assigning better meanings, and focusing on the right things. When we follow this, suddenly, change isn't so hard. Suddenly, discipline is easy.Resources:Stanford University Study of Tony Robbins' Date with Destiny Events:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022395622001157The above study summarized:https://scienceoftonyrobbins.com/Dr. K Interview on Huberman Lab Podcasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G2MRFs4vac&time_continue=2&source_ve_path=NzY3NTg&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com

To kick off our ongoing series on the brain, Dr. Jordan and I are starting off with 2 episodes on changing our energetic state. Our state can be defined as the snapshot of our physiology and psychology in any given moment, based on the exact neurons firing in the brain at that moment. Our state determines the amount of energy we have in that given moment, and with heightened energy we can show up to everything important in life better, from relationships, to career/life's work, to hobbies.In this episode, we discuss 5 ways to increase the physiological portion of our state, to give us a heightened sense of energy: exercise, music, posture, radical changes in our physiology (like cold plunges or breathwork), and diet/nutrition.These physiological changes profoundly impact our psychology as well, thanks to the neurotransmitters they release while performing them, and the neuroplasticity (changeability) they allow in our brain during and after the time we are physically active.Managing our state goes beyond just physiological changes though: our focus and the stories we tell ourselves about who we are, what events mean, and what type of world we live in deeply impact our energetic state, so in the next episode, we will dive into focus and stories and how these energize or deplete us.Lasting change is the result of first changing our physiological state so our brains can enter a state of neuroplasticity (changeability), and then choosing better focus and stories/meanings that energize us so we can show up for everything in life better. 

To kick off our ongoing series on the brain, Dr. Jordan and I are starting off with 2 episodes on changing our energetic state. Our state can be defined as the snapshot of our physiology and psychology in any given moment, based on the exact neurons firing in the brain at that moment. Our state determines the amount of energy we have in that given moment, and with heightened energy we can show up to everything important in life better, from relationships, to career/life's work, to hobbies.In this episode, we discuss 5 ways to increase the physiological portion of our state, to give us a heightened sense of energy: exercise, music, posture, radical changes in our physiology (like cold plunges or breathwork), and diet/nutrition.These physiological changes profoundly impact our psychology as well, thanks to the neurotransmitters they release while performing them, and the neuroplasticity (changeability) they allow in our brain during and after the time we are physically active.Managing our state goes beyond just physiological changes though: our focus and the stories we tell ourselves about who we are, what events mean, and what type of world we live in deeply impact our energetic state, so in the next episode, we will dive into focus and stories and how these energize or deplete us.Lasting change is the result of first changing our physiological state so our brains can enter a state of neuroplasticity (changeability), and then choosing better focus and stories/meanings that energize us so we can show up for everything in life better.

Vitamin E in leafy greens like lettuce, cabbage, kale, and spinach neutralize free radicals in the brain, preventing them from causing a chain reaction of atoms/molecules stealing electrons from one another and leaving portions of our brain not functioning properly due to the instability this causes. #science #brain #health

Clipped from Episode #13 - Brain Series - Changing Our Energetic State - Part 1: Physiology

To kick off our ongoing series on the brain, Dr. Jordan and I are starting off with 2 episodes on changing our energetic state. Our state can be defined as the snapshot of our physiology and psychology in any given moment, based on the exact neurons firing in the brain at that moment. Our state determines the amount of energy we have in that given moment, and with heightened energy we can show up to everything important in life better, from relationships, to career/life's work, to hobbies.In this episode, we discuss 5 ways to increase the physiological portion of our state, to give us a heightened sense of energy: exercise, music, posture, radical changes in our physiology (like cold plunges or breathwork), and diet/nutrition.These physiological changes profoundly impact our psychology as well, thanks to the neurotransmitters they release while performing them, and the neuroplasticity (changeability) they allow in our brain during and after the time we are physically active.Managing our state goes beyond just physiological changes though: our focus and the stories we tell ourselves about who we are, what events mean, and what type of world we live in deeply impact our energetic state, so in the next episode, we will dive into focus and stories and how these energize or deplete us.Lasting change is the result of first changing our physiological state so our brains can enter a state of neuroplasticity (changeability), and then choosing better focus and stories/meanings that energize us so we can show up for everything in life better.

CHAPTERS

00:00 — Intro

03:41 — States of Being and the Brain

05:25 — Jordan's Rehabbed Shoulders are put to the test in State Change Exercise

07:53 — #1: Working Out's Impact on State of Being

39:01 — #2: Music's Impact on State of Being

54:26 — #3: Posture's Impact on State of Being58:36 — #4: Radical Changes in Body: Cold Plunges

1:05:43 — #4: Radical Changes in Body: Breath Work

1:13:10 — #5: Nutrition Impact on Energetic State of Being

1:13:46 — Grocery List Memory Challenge!

1:21:48 — The Body-Location Memorization Method

1:24:12 — Memorizing the Top Ten Brain Foods as defined by Memory Coach Jim Kwik

1:32:52 — Previewing Upcoming Nutrition Episode with Leafy Green Benefits

(02:10) Exploring the Power of Fiction

(03:04) Defining Fiction: A Spectrum of Reality

(08:05) The Impact of Shared Fictions

(26:39) The Emotional Depth of Fiction

(33:13) The Importance of Emotional Payoff in Storytelling

(41:59) Questioning Everyday Fictions and Systems

(45:59) The Power of Shared Stories and Beliefs

(51:24) The Causal Power of Fiction in Society

(01:01:36) The Role of Identity in Storytelling

(01:09:47) Perception and Reality: The Fiction of Self

(01:17:43) Understanding the Psyche of Villains

(01:24:57) The Nature of Reality as Fiction

Jordan answers Z's interview questions about his early days finding interest in science, choosing Physics as his University Major, his undergrad program, Master's in Planetary Physics, and his new jam - a PhD in Medical Physics! Join us as we delve deep into his work with NASA studying data from a Mars rover, how consciousness fits into science, and his current research analyzing dopamine's affect on Parkinson's disease.

00:00 Intro

01:25 What first got Jordan interested in Science?

02:24 Sleep Walking is Channeling

10:00 Marijuana Opening Scientific Perspective

14:55 Does Science Become Repetitive if it's Not Innovative Science?

19:10 Choosing a Post Secondary Path

20:55 Jordan's Fave Aspects of Physics

32:50 Quantum Physics vs Classical Physics

38:57 Science Describes How Reality Behaves, Not What It Is

44:40 Beginning to Read Your Intuition

47:20 How Science Could Study Consciousness Better

50:45 What Is Knowledge? / Jordan Officially Believes In God

59:20 Statistical Mechanics

1:01:57 Jordan's Master's Mars Mission: Working With NASA In Guelph

1:22:35 Why The Change From Planetary Physics To Medical Physics?

1:24:00 Jordan's PhD Project: Studying Dopamine's Relation To Parkinson's Disease

1:26:29 Hanania Bros Interest In Investigating Reality

1:31:05 Biology, Complexity & Biological Information Transfer

1:35:44 Methods Of Expanding Mental Capacity1:41:17 Dopamine's Relation To The Brain & Body

1:48:12 Imaging Dopamine via PET Scans Using Glucose & Raclopride Molecules

1:53:35 Will We Eventually Be Able To Cure Parkinson's Disease?

1:54:44 Epigenetics: How Bad Are Stress Hormones In The Environment Of Our Body?

1:58:59 The Coolest Parts Of Jordan's PhD Program

2:01:09 How Much Appreciation Has Science Added to Jordo's Life?

2:03:50 Purely Human Feelings Add Even More Appreciation to Life

2:07:50 What Jordan Loves Most About Science

02:11:35 Paradigms Evolving

02:14:01 Is Science Jordan's Most Favorite Thing in Life?

02:16:23 What Gives Life The Most Meaning?

While part 1 (Episode 9) of our Integration Series covered why integration is important and why we become fragmented from our true selves, this part 2 (Episode 10) gets into the nitty gritty of what our shadow self is, what shadow work (shadow integration) is, what dark and light polarity are in the universe and within ourselves, how excess hijacks our dopamine systems and creates a feedback loop of a desire for more consumption (leading to addiction), and why having an integrated and healthy balance of our dark and light sides is essential for living a fulfilling life of integrity. It's about accepting and loving all parts of ourselves like they are a family, so they don't feel neglected and act out, and so we can remain in integrity with our values and the people we care about.

(00:00:55) Relationships are Key to Becoming Aware of Ourselves

(00:04:18) Trauma and It's Role in Becoming Aware of Ourselves

(00:08:13) Psychedelics / Plant Medicines and their role in Healing Trauma

(00:14:10) The Shadow Self

(00:20:05) Should We Actively Seek Out Our Shadow Self?

(00:24:49) How the Self Becomes Fragmented: Compartmentalizing, Lying, and People-Pleasing

(00:26:36) Demons and How it Feels like the Shadow is a Demon "Possessing" Us

(00:27:20) Excess, Drugs, Porn, Dopamine, and the Shadow Self that Results from Excess Indulgence

(00:32:04) Shadow Work

(00:33:27) Integration = Befriending Your Shadow

(00:34:10) Awakening, THEN Integrating; Becoming Aware of What's Inside, then Integrating it Into a Cohesive Sense of Self

(00:35:40) Carl Jung's Outlook on The Shadow Self

(00:36:36) Guilt vs. Shame

(00:37:55) Why We Repress and Suppress

(00:40:52) Dark and Light Polarity

(00:48:29) The Power of Intention

(00:50:48) Changing our Brains: Neurogenesis vs. Neuroplasticity

(00:53:15) Jordan's AI Endeavors

(00:58:20) Dark & Light Aspects of Self Need Balance

(01:04:49) Unifying Duality into Oneness, through Integration

(01:07:50) Integration vs. Assimilation

(01:10:30) Integrating All Parts of Yourself like they're One Big Family

#science #spirituality #mentalhealth #health #wellness