Inner Pioneers

Why do we speak so easily about lifelong learning, yet almost never about lifelong inner growth? Tomas Björkman, author of The Market Myth, The World We Create and The Nordic Secret, and founding chair of the Inner Development Goals, has spent almost two decades on that question.

In conversation with Chris, he traces his path from a Swedish family farm to founding a banking group, and then to a leadership program that opened a crack he has been following ever since. From there he builds a case: a society can only hold as much complexity as its citizens can inwardly carry, democracy asks each of us to form independent judgments, and when too many people cannot, we reach for strongmen and simple explanations.

His answer is not more control, but the Enlightenment's original bet that everyone can mature with the right education and support. The conversation closes on what Tomas is testing in practice, from the Inner Development Goals to the Lakefront community near Stockholm.

Steven C. Hayes has spent fifty years asking a single question: what is the smallest set of psychological processes that does the most good for the most people in the most circumstances? His answer became Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), now supported by nearly 1,500 randomized trials, and the psychological flexibility model that underlies it.

In this conversation with host Dmitrij Achelrod, Hayes explains why human language, the same capacity that lets us plan, connect, and create, also lets us manufacture psychological pain almost without limit. He walks through why pain is not optional but suffering is, unpacking the etymology of "suffering" itself to explain how identical pain can be carried lightly or crushingly. From there, the conversation moves through cognitive defusion, the "witnessing self" behind our thoughts, and the startling evidence that trauma can be carried epigenetically across generations, before landing on a World Health Organization trial in which a simple, cartoon-illustrated ACT self-help book cut the onset of new mental disorders by half among Syrian refugees who had survived war.

Together, Hayes and Dmitrij explore what it actually means to take responsibility (not blame) for how we carry pain forward, why curiosity and willingness to learn from failure predict a thriving life better than almost anything else, and why, at nearly 78, Hayes still calls the work "exciting as hell."

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Nadjeschda Taranczewski, psychologist, master certified coach, and author of Conscious You: Become the Hero of Your Own Story, argues that most personal growth is mistaken for itself: people leave a retreat able to talk fluently about trust and vulnerability, and treat the fluency as the change. Her standard is stricter. Real development shows up specifically with the people who trigger you most, not in how well you can describe your own growth to a stranger. She introduces the standard, and the four elements behind it (self-reflection, self-compassion, ownership, and honest dialogue), through her own history with bulimia in her teens and twenties, then spends the rest of the conversation with host Christopher Kabakis reapplying it: to leadership shadow patterns (self-exploitation and narcissism, both traced to shame), to organisational culture (which she argues starts and ends with the person who is its "source"), and to money, which she treats as one of the most powerful and least examined entry points into personal trauma work.

(0:00) Introduction to Nadja Tarancewski (03:51) Nadja's Struggles With a Hidden Addiction (12:15) The Stories We Tell About Ourselves (20:43) The Intelligence of Our Defences (29:47) Integration of Insights into Daily Life (34:47) Navigating Leadership Challenges and Vulnerability (41:17) The Importance of Inner Development for Coaches (48:39) The Role of Leadership in Cultural Transformation (53:57) Exploring the Relationship Between Money and Trauma (58:58) Cultural Resonance of Conscious Work in Japan (01:10:56) Practical Steps for Personal Transformation

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What happens when the systems we rely on to understand the world are designed to capture our attention rather than help us make sense of it?

In this conversation, Der Spiegel correspondent Stefan Schultz explores how algorithms, social media and increasingly AI are fragmenting our shared reality by rewarding outrage, fear and certainty. His response is a radically different vision of journalism: one that focuses not only on better information, but on the inner development of journalists themselves.

Drawing on adult development theory and systemic thinking, Stefan explains how greater bias awareness, multi-perspectivity and emotional maturity could help journalists move beyond self-righteous expertise toward more nuanced, depolarising forms of sense-making.

Together with Dmitrij Achelrod, he explores our “inner fake news,” the limits of objectivity, the role of cognitive bias, and why a more mature infosphere may require more mature people creating it.

At its core, the episode asks: what if journalism could help society not just stay informed, but grow up?

(00:00) Why Journalism Shapes the World You Think You See

(03:10) What Is the Infosphere - and Why It Controls More Than You Think

(06:06) Is AI an Existential Threat to Journalism?

(08:53) Two Crises You Did Not Know You Were Living Through

(12:01) The Two Paths Journalism Can Take Right Now

(15:00) What Integral Journalism Actually Is

(17:52) The Five Competencies a Journalist of Tomorrow Needs

(20:57) How Do You Compete With Content Designed to Addict?

(23:44) Can Positive Emotions Go Just as Viral as Outrage?

(27:01) The Documentary That Converted Neo-Nazis With Empathy

(30:00) The Core Definition: What Makes Journalism Integral

(33:01) The Developmental Stages That Shape Every Story You Read

(46:58) How Your Stage of Development Changes What You See in the World

(52:10) How Journalism Looks at Each Stage - From Tribal to Systemic

(56:29) Why the Expert Stage Is Still Limiting Most Public Discourse

(01:01:50) What Journalism Looks Like When It Thinks in Systems

(01:05:10) A Vision for a More Mature Media - and a More Mature Society

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Over 20 years and 73 high-dose LSD sessions, philosopher Christopher Bache systematically explored consciousness as a methodology - not for healing, but for understanding the deep structure of reality. What began as personal karmic work rapidly expanded into encounters with collective mind, archetypal reality, causal oneness, and finally the shattering clarity of diamond luminosity. These experiences, cross-validated against mystical traditions and cutting-edge consciousness science, produced a coherent cosmology in which the universe is a participatory, living intelligence. Bache argues we are now at the threshold where humanity must awaken into soul consciousness - not to escape the world, but to transform it.

(00:00) Introductions & Why Bache Risked Everything to Explore Consciousness

(32:59) What If Psychedelics Show You a More Real Reality?

(34:44) Why Your Experience Can Be Real Even If Science Can’t Measure It

(35:32) The Worldview You Don’t Realise You’re Living Inside

(36:36) Why Science Is Moving Beyond Materialism

(37:59) What If Your Brain Doesn’t Create Consciousness?

(39:33) The Reality Behind the Reality You See

(40:50) You’re Not Just Observing Reality - You’re Shaping It

(42:18) What If Consciousness Helps Create What You Experience?

(44:37) The Deeper You Go, the More Reality Opens Up

(49:11) The Five Levels Bache Says Consciousness Can Move Through

(53:07) What Comes After Oneness?

(56:39) Bache Reached the “End” - Then Something Else Appeared

(58:23) The Psychedelic Advice Bache Wishes He’d Had Earlier

(01:06:49) Peak Experiences - And What Actually Changes You

(01:12:46) What If Death Is Not The End?

(01:17:43) Are We Growing Into a New Kind of Human?

(01:22:18) The Cosmos Is Alive

(01:26:32) What Your Children Teach You About Being a Profound Person

(01:29:26) Are Science and Spirituality Moving Toward the Same Truth?

(01:32:36) What Psychedelic Really Reveal

(01:35:07) The Question Bache Could Never Stop Exploring

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Dr. Stephanie Schoss has spent almost 15 years working closely with senior executives at the University of St. Gallen - often in small, confidential settings where CEOs say the things they would never admit in public.

What she has observed challenges the image of the powerful, self-assured leader. Behind the polished exterior, many struggle with loneliness, fear of failure, self-doubt and the pressure to always appear in control. And paradoxically, Stephanie has found that even highly armoured executives often deeply welcome vulnerability once it feels safe enough to show it.

The conversation explores what these moments reveal about trust, leadership and the hidden cost of always having to be the strong one. Why do leaders ask others to trust them while struggling to trust their own teams? Why does vulnerability so often create relief rather than weakness? And what happens when a CEO finally stops performing certainty and tells the “naked truth”?

At its core, the episode asks: what can we learn about leadership from the things top CEOs only reveal when the armour comes off?

02:05 Introductions & Why A Full Life Can Still Feel Like Too Much

03:52 When Doing More May Be Holding You Back

07:16 Why You Need a Deeper Relationship With Yourself

09:55 The Leadership Belief Schoss Had to Unlearn

15:09 What a Crisis Can Teach You About How You Lead

18:48 Why You Can’t Build Trust Without the “We”

24:11 Why You Only Open Up When You Feel Truly Safe

33:39 Looking Weak Strengthens Your Leadership

35:49 The Culture Change Has to Start With You

39:43 Why the System Keeps Pulling You Back

41:57 You May Be Rewarding the Wrong Leadership Traits

43:58 The 50,000 Feet Perspective That Changes Everything

47:52 Why Your Biggest Insights Often Don’t Last

52:56 Can Altered States Change How You Lead?

56:35 You May Need a More Human Way to Lead

01:02:41 What to Remember When Leadership Feels Lonely

01:04:34 Outro

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What still stands between today’s AI and a machine that could become conscious? Princeton neuroscientist Michael Graziano argues that the answer may not be some mysterious essence unique to biological life. Current AI does not yet build self-models in the same way humans do, nor does it have the embodied systems that give rise to human emotion, but Graziano believes these capacities can be built - it’s merely a matter of time.

Discover with us what would have to change for machines to develop something resembling subjective experience: from self-models and semantic understanding to embodiment, feelings and the ability to care. The conversation moves from today’s LLMs to simulated bodies, substrate independence and even mind uploading, opening up a provocative question: if the ingredients of consciousness can ultimately be reproduced, what - if anything - will remain uniquely human?

01:20 Peek Inside the Mind of a Princeton Neuroscientist Studying Consciousness

05:40 Consciousness Isn’t What You Think It Is

09:40 The Brain Model That Could Explain Conscious Awareness

14:28 How Graziano Became Obsessed With the Mystery of the Mind

18:48 Attention vs. Awareness: The Crucial Difference

23:29 Why Conscious Experience Feels So Real

27:51 What Still Stands Between Today’s AI and Consciousness?

40:59 Why Your Body May Be the Missing Ingredient

43:05 AI Can Understand - But Can It Ever Feel?

44:30 Prediction vs. Understanding: Is AI Really Thinking?

49:02 The Architecture That Separates Human Minds From Machines

54:07 Feelings, Consciousness and the “Magic” Your Brain Creates

01:01:51 Quantum Consciousness: Breakthrough Idea or Wrong Turn?

01:07:34 Mind Uploading and the Question of What Makes You “You”

01:09:40 What Understanding Consciousness Could Change About Your Life

01:13:08 Where Neuroscience Ends and Fiction Begins

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Traditional trauma therapy often focuses on distressing events, but many people suffer primarily from absence: they were never soothed, protected, understood, or loved in the ways they needed.

Dr. Laurel Parnell explains how attachment-focused EMDR expands the standard protocol by creating safety first and helping clients develop internal nurturing figures, protectors, wise guides, and peaceful places. These imagined resources are not treated as fantasies to escape into, but as experiences that activate and strengthen underdeveloped capacities in the nervous system. Healing becomes both a release of the past and a developmental repair of what was missing.

00:00 Introductions: Dr. Laurel Parnell, pioneer in attachment-focused EDMR

02:42 The Trauma Reprocessing That Started It All

11:22 The “Small” Traumas That Quietly Shape Your Life

16:09 Why A Finger-Movement Can Change How You Feel

20:01 What Ancient Healing Traditions Knew That We Forgot

21:48 Why Talk-Therapy Never Worked For You

24:05 What Happens When You Never Felt Safe

28:04 The Four Inner Resources That Help You Heal

31:47 Why the Right Relationship Can Heal More Than the Method

33:58 Why You Struggle to Let Love In

37:49 What If the Trauma You Carry Is Not Entirely Yours?

44:02 Can You Absorb Emotional Energy From Other People?

49:11 What Your Addiction May Be Protecting You From

56:11 Outro & Why Trauma Healing Is Entering a New Era

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What if the reason you're suffering isn't the reason you think?

Most of us spend our lives trying to escape discomfort - avoiding difficult emotions, distracting ourselves from pain, and searching for ways to feel better. But according to meditation teacher and author Andrew Holecek, this instinct may be the very thing keeping us stuck.

Drawing from decades of Tibetan Buddhist practice, intensive retreat experience, psychology, and contemplative science, Andrew explains why pain and suffering are not the same thing. We explore the hidden role of resistance, the surprising freedom that exists between stimulus and response, and the practice of "Reverse Meditation" - a method for transforming unwanted experiences into opportunities for growth.

We also discuss trauma, identity, awakening, activism, and why true transformation often begins in the places we spend our lives trying to avoid.

If you've ever struggled with anxiety, emotional pain, loss, uncertainty, or the feeling that life shouldn't be this hard, this conversation offers a radically different way of understanding suffering - and a practical path through it.

00:00 Introductions

02:50 The Experience That Changed Andrew's Life Forever

13:31 The 3-Year Retreat That Destroyed His Old Identity

21:53 Why We Suffer (And Why Reality Isn't What You Think)

30:42 You Can Feel More Pain and Suffer Less

38:45 Does Buddhism Make People Passive?

44:35 Reverse Meditation: Using Pain as a Path

49:56 Transforming Pain into Growth: A 4 Step Approach

57:51 You're Not Suffering for the Reason You Think

01:02:49 When Healing Becomes Overwhelming: A Better Way to Work With Trauma

01:06:47 Closing

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For years, Maj believed leadership meant performing, delivering, and demonstrating capability. But beneath the achievements were stomach aches, pressure, damaged relationships, and the exhausting pursuit of proving herself. In this conversation, she shares how repeated transitions taught her that leadership isn't about becoming indispensable - it's about creating spaces where others can flourish.

00:00 Introductions & Why So Many High Achievers Feel Like They're Faking It

07:14 The Leadership Trap: Why Trying to Prove Yourself Backfires

11:41 Traditional Leadership Advice Never Worked for You

16:36 The Contradictions Every Leader Must Learn to Live With

33:37 Why Power Dynamics Control More of Your Career Than You Think

38:42 The One Thing You're Probably Not Giving Yourself Enough Of

48:02 What the Pandemic Revealed About the Way You Lead

51:37 Can You Stay True to Your Values When It Actually Costs You?

56:43 The Mindset Shift That Changes Everything: Stop Thinking Either/Or

01:00:53 Closing & Final Piece of Advice for Anyone Navigating Change

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