What does it mean to win at both the inner and outer scorecard of life?

What does it take to lead a 10,000+ person organization at Amazon while simultaneously undergoing 150 chemotherapy sessions?

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Karuna Shankar Pande, a former Vice President at Amazon who recently stepped away from his high-power corporate role to pursue a personal mission of impacting 1 million lives. Dr. Karuna is a recipient of the Indian President's National Award for his work in disability inclusion and is famously known for calling his Stage 4 cancer his "Teacher" and "Guru."

We dive deep into how he balances the "Outer Scorecard" (corporate success, status) with the "Inner Scorecard" (fulfillment, resilience). He shares his "Punch It Out" framework for navigating adversity, the innovations he drove within Amazon’s supply chain, and why he believes good guys actually finish first.

This conversation is a masterclass on resilience, compassionate leadership, and finding your purpose before life forces you to.

In this episode, we cover:

- How to balance high-stakes corporate pressure with genuine human connection.

- The reality of battling Stage 4 Multiple Myeloma while working as an Amazon VP.

- Dr. Karuna's "Punch It Out" framework for dealing with extreme adversity.

- How he operationalized social impact: From menstrual hygiene projects to disability inclusion.

- The "Cowboy" culture of Amazon India and how they innovated with "I Have Space."

- Why he chose to leave Amazon to focus on elder care and education.

- The role of Vipassana meditation in managing physical pain and mental clarity.

About the Guest: Dr. Karuna Shankar Pande was a Vice President at Amazon, managing operations for 10,000+ people. He is a cancer survivor, an executive coach, and a recipient of the President's National Award for empowering disabled individuals in the corporate sector. He recently resigned to focus on his non-profit mission to impact over 1 million lives.

Chapters

00:00 – Introduction: The Amazon VP who calls Cancer his "Guru" 

01:45 – Balancing the Inner vs. Outer Scorecard 

05:15 – Do "Good Guys" Finish Last in Corporate America? 

08:00 – How Connection Prevents Burnout (Even with 10,000 Employees)

12:30 – Winning the President’s Award for Disability Inclusion 

19:45 – Operationalizing Social Impact: Menstrual Hygiene & Driver Safety

25:00 – How Volunteering Accelerates Career Growth 

32:00 – Amazon’s "Cowboy" Culture & Solving the India Address Problem

41:15 – Advice for Finding Fulfillment in Your 30s

49:30 – The Traits of High Performers: Ownership vs. Self-Limiting Beliefs

53:45 – Why He Left Amazon to Impact 1 Million Lives

01:00:15 – Battling Stage 4 Cancer: The "Punch It Out" Framework

01:12:15 – Reframing Adversity: Why Cancer is a Teacher

01:25:30 – Vipassana Meditation & Managing Physical Pain

01:32:45 – Defining a Legacy Beyond the Paycheck

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karuna-pande/

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What does it really cost to make VP?

I asked my ex-boss, Andrew Willingham, what it really cost him to make VP. Andrew is one of those rare leaders who people would willingly follow into any battle. I wanted to understand how he builds such high-trust, high-velocity teams and how he kept getting promoted—from individual contributor to VP—while navigating the intense culture of Amazon.

The conversation surprised me. Instead of just discussing career hacks, we went deep into the personal side of corporate climbing. Andrew shares his non-linear journey (from a music major to being laid off, to leading a 300+ person org) and the health scare that forced him to rethink everything.

This episode is a masterclass on self-awareness, timing, and positioning yourself so "luck" can find you.

In this episode, we cover:

Why decoupling your identity from your role is the biggest unlock in corporate success.

How to "make deals" with your boss explicitly, not implicitly.

The real signals for when it’s time to switch teams or roles.

How you can be 100% burned out and still tell yourself you’re “fine.”

Why doing less actually allows you to bring more to the table.

About the Guest: Andrew Willingham was a Director of Product at Amazon and is currently a Vice President at Atlassian. He is an expert in scaling teams and navigating complex corporate environments without losing your soul.

Chapters

01:20 – Introduction: From Laid Off to VP

03:20 – Transitioning from Amazon to Atlassian

06:15 – What It Really Takes to Climb from IC to Director

07:15 – The Role of Luck in Career Success

09:15 – Skills That Compound: Motor, Curiosity, Discomfort

11:15 – Understanding Politics as Perception Management

13:30 – Why Sustainability Determines Long Term Success

16:00 – Making Explicit “Contracts” With Your Boss

18:45 – Asking “Dumb” Questions as a Superpower

21:00 – Caring Deeply vs Chasing Promotion

25:00 – Decoupling Identity from Your Job

27:15 – Personal Wake Up Moments and Perspective Shifts

29:00 – How to Decide When to Switch Roles

33:45 – Optimizing for Compensation vs Learning

38:00 – Recognizing and Recovering from Burnout

41:00 – Building Boundaries: Removing Email and Slack

46:00 – Modeling Behavior as a Leader

01:03:15 – Building High Trust, High Performance Teams

01:10:00 – Why Kindness Is a Leadership Differentiator

01:14:45 – Entrepreneurial Thinking Inside Big Companies

01:19:45 – The Power of Relationships at Senior Levels

01:22:15 – Final Advice and Reflections

Connect with Andrew

LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewwillingham/

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This episode of The Inner Scorecard features Arnav Gupta , an engineering leader at Meta who has built a career defined by high agency and outlier decisions. We go back to the university days, and everyone knew Arnav as one of the best coders, but nobody could've guessed he would go on to solve some of the hardest tech problems out there.

From rejecting Facebook and Zomato straight out of college to start Coding Blocks, to advising Deepinder Goyal at 25, and eventually scaling the IPL live stream to 200 million concurrent users—Arnav’s journey is a masterclass in engineering for impact. We dive deep into the "runbook" philosophy of live events, the cynicism that comes with experience, and how to know when you've finally made "enough" money.

Episode Timestamps

Episode Timestamps

00:00 — Introduction: Meet the "Champion Swimmer"

04:45 — The Startup Perspective: Why payroll stress changes how you see the world

08:00 — Joining Zomato: Negotiating part-time consulting and high-leverage roles

11:15 — Working with Deepinder Goyal: Lessons in leadership and financial incentives

13:30 — The "On-Time or Free" Story: Tech as an insurance product

20:00 — Engineering for Business: Reducing app size to stop uninstalls

25:30 — Rejecting Facebook: The "Reversible Decision" framework

33:00 — The DTU Days: Why Electrical Engineering was a struggle

40:45 — Scaling IPL for 200 Million Users: India's "Super Bowl" moment

48:30 — The War Room: Why you need Runbooks, not "0-to-1" thinking

57:00 — Why I Teach: The selfish benefit of documenting your work

01:04:30 — Wealth Philosophy: Why Indians should optimize for money early

01:13:30 — The "One Crore Liquid" Milestone: Changing your mental species

01:18:30 — Moving to London: Global Talent Visas and the UK food scene

01:26:15 — Working at Meta: Scale vs. Individual Impact

Connect with Arnav

X (Twitter): https://x.com/championswimmer

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arnavgupta/

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This video took 25 years in the making. Decades of knowing each other and this conversation is what comes out of it.

Rawal and I go way back to third grade, and this episode is us sharing a very real piece of who we are. From first love (& first breakups) to writing his first rap near Tagore Garden Metro Station, this journey has been rooted in West Delhi and shaped by our shared experience.

In this conversation, Rawal opens up about growing up misunderstood, losing his mother at an early age, and how music became his way to process it all, his therapy. We revisit our alma mater and talk about what it truly means to be raised in Delhi and turn pain into art that resonates with millions.

Rawal shares his early experiences from early DHH days, writing Sab Chaiye and then Sherdil - working with the biggest names in the industry Sez, Raga, Ikka, Seedhe Maut, Kr$na and numerous others. Let this act as a guide for aspiring rappers and musicians on how to thrive as an independent artist but be one of the best collaborators, always raising the bar.

Let this video be a reminder that friends and family are we live for, no matter how much you make it in life - you're still the same to those who truly love you.

Chapters

00:01:46 - Introduction to a 25-year friendship

00:03:15 - Surprising Rawal, Returning to School

00:08:18 - Reflections on starting rap 13 years ago

00:10:00 - Switching to Hindi Changed Everything

00:13:55 - Meeting Sez and early collaborations

00:16:38 - Dynamics of a lifelong friendship

00:20:44 - The rugged and emotional spirit of Delhi

00:23:59 - Opening up about childhood trauma and family

00:27:54 - Early songwriting and recording struggles

00:48:26 - Tour of Rawal's home and studio space

00:55:05 - Insight into the songwriting and creative process

01:05:30 - Money, Independence, and the Business of Rap

01:07:00 - Balancing interior design with a music career

01:12:46 - Rap as a team sport and record labels

Two friends reconnect after a decade that changed everything.

We both studied at Delhi College of Engineering, a tier-1 college where the future still felt completely open and uncertain. Neither of us could have predicted even 1 percent of what life had in store. The opportunities we stumbled into, the risks that worked out, and the kind of money we ended up making by the time we turned 30.

In this episode, I challenge Vibhu to break things down practically. A simple 4-step playbook for anyone trying to start their career in the AI era, especially when companies are actively avoiding junior hires.

If you are wondering how to get your first role when the rules have changed, this conversation is for you.

From New Delhi to Silicon Valley.

From uncertainty to building real leverage.

From student life to earning millions in tech.

00:00:00 - Intro & The "100-Bagger" Stock Story

00:06:57 - Financial Independence, Family & "F**K You Money"

00:12:52 - Inside Nvidia: AI Infrastructure & Silicon Valley

00:37:09 - The 9-Month Road Trip & Remote Work

00:44:26 - AI Breakthroughs: Coding Agents & Math Olympiads

00:49:46 - Is a Computer Science Degree Still Worth It?

00:56:36 - Where is the Money? Infrastructure vs. Application Layer

01:03:35 - The Playbook: 4 Steps to Land Your First AI Role A tactical, step-by-step guide for getting hired in AI without a PhD.

01:27:09 - Spotting Luck, Information Diet & Outro How to separate signal from noise in the AI hype cycle.

If you've had a setback at work/life and think that defines or limits you - watch this episode. Ethan went from being fired twice, divorced to getting promoted to VP at Amazon.

What happens when you “make it” as an Amazon VP and realise the bigger house, second house, private jets and status ladder are just another treadmill?

In this episode, I sit down with Ethan Evans, former Amazon Vice President, who led teams of 800+ people and helped launch what became Prime Video, Prime Gaming and the Amazon Appstore and who then walked away at 50 to build an anti-fragile life, coaching and writing full-time.

Ethan is now a career coach, creator and newsletter writer earning over $1M a year in “retirement”, known for his radical transparency about layoffs, divorce, money, culture clashes and meaning.

If you’re in big tech (or on the way there), earning well but quietly wondering “is this it?”, this episode will give you a brutally honest look at money, status, identity and designing a life that can take a beating and still get better.

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:44 - Don't "turtle up." Resilience & Failed Demos in Front of Jeff Bezos

00:05:15 - The VP Trap: Why Money & Titles Are Never Enough

00:21:28 - Reinventing Yourself at 50

00:25:30 - "Gaming" the System: Building a Personal Brand at Amazon

00:32:30 - The Truth About Networking (It’s Not Just Executives)

00:44:55 - 3 Things That Stop High Performers From Growing

00:52:00 - Victim Mentality: Why You Are Always 10% Responsible

00:56:45 - The Myth of Work-Life Balance (Career, Family, Health)

01:03:00 - Honest Regrets: Being a "C-Grade" Parent

01:08:00 - Building an Antifragile Life :How to survive divorce, layoffs, and crises

01:12:21 - Mercenaries vs. Missionaries: Choosing the Right Boss

Connect with Ethan Evans:

Website: https://www.ethanevans.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethanevansvp

X: https://x.com/EthanEvansVP

Connect with Nikhil:

YouTube:  ⁨https://www.youtube.com/@InnerScorecard

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inner.scorecard/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkapahi/

Deepak Chopra, a visionary entrepreneur and philanthropist, has set a bold goal: to lift 5million Indians from poverty to the middle class.In this episode, we explore how Deepak is using education, not charity, to solve one of India’sdeepest-rooted problems — the lack of quality early education for millions of youth.Through his organization, Freedom Employability Academy (FEA):● Over 1,300 centers are now active across North India● More than 78,000 students are enrolled each year● Over 500,000 students have graduated● Each graduate gains an average lifetime income boost of ₹53,00,000 (USD $70,000)● All of this from an investment of just $250 per studentDeepak’s model is scalable, ethical, and rooted in English fluency, digital skills, andvalues-based training — backed by Stanford research.“Real change happens when you move people from low income to middle income. That’s hownations grow.”Watch to learn how one man is building what many believe only governments can — realsolutions at massive scale.

Meet Tom Veatch — linguist, philosopher, plumber, humor theorist, and literacy evangelist. In this powerful episode of The Inner Scorecard Podcast, host Nikhil sits down with what he calls “a walking library” — a man who never stopped learning and never limited himself to one identity.From his early academic work in linguistics and the N+V Theory of Humor, to living in Indian ashrams and creating tools to fight global illiteracy, Tom’s journey is both deeply intellectual and profoundly human.We explore:- Why humor happens when things feel both right and wrong- His mission to teach 700 million people to read using phonetics- The emotional depth of India vs the isolation of the West- The spiritual impact of gurus, Sanskrit, and the “inner scorecard”- Why being a jack-of-all-trades might be the ultimate superpowerYouTube Chapters:00:00 – Introduction: Meet Tom Veatch, the walking library06:04 – Why Tom’s Literacy Project Matters17:40 – Life Advice from a Guru in India24:30 – Financial Independence: Buying Time to Do Good27:00 – Aging in Asia vs America: A Cultural Perspective30:15 – Revisiting Guruji’s Advice on Purpose47:13 – The Global Impact of Illiteracy54:00 – Can We Teach the World to Read with Phonetics?🔔 Subscribe for more conversations with polymaths, founders, scientists, and creators pushing the boundaries of what it means to live a meaningful life.📍 Explore more of Tom's work: https://www.tomveatch.comFollow Tom on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thomas.c.veatch/Subscribe to Tom YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoGWCo15nRWzR_yfNWAwAlw🎧 Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & all major platforms. 🎥 Follow us on X and Instagram for reels, behind-the-scenes clips, and future episodes.#TomVeatch #InnerScorecard #LifelongLearning #Polymath #LiteracyForAll #HumorTheory #CognitiveScience #IndiaInspired #PhoneticLiteracy #JackOfAllTrades #AshramLife #SpiritualJourney #PodcastLife #NikhilKapahi #EmotionalIntelligence #IPAAlphabet #MeaningfulConversations #WalkingLibrary #ThinkDeeply #LearningNeverStops

Dr. Pankaj Kapahi is a world-renowned aging researcher and professor at the Buck Institute for Research on Aging, where his lab explores the molecular and nutritional drivers of aging and age-related diseases. 🧬 In this episode of The Inner Scorecard, Dr. Kapahi dives deep into cutting-edge longevity science — including how diet, sugar, intermittent fasting, and even exercise timing impact your biological age and long-term health.You’ll hear why he believes sugar is the new nicotine, how personalized fasting strategies could transform public health, and why muscle maintenance is one of the most overlooked keys to healthy aging. From his own family’s health struggles to the molecular mechanisms that accelerate or slow aging, Dr. Kapahi shares both the science and the soul behind his research. He also unpacks what it means to live by your own “inner scorecard” when working at the intersection of science, innovation, and ethics.Whether you're biohacking your health, exploring diet and longevity, or just curious about what the future of aging might look like — this episode is a must-listen.⏳ Chapters:00:00 Introduction – Meet Dr. Kapahi and the big questions of aging 03:20 Growing Up in the UK and Personal Motivation – How his father’s diabetes inspired his mission 09:45 Why Aging Is a Treatable Condition – Reframing aging as a biological process we can influence 15:30 The Hidden Dangers of Sugar and Poor Diet – How sugar breaks the system and accelerates aging 23:00 Fasting, Ketosis, and Cellular Cleanup – Explaining autophagy, mTOR, and metabolic flexibility 32:10 Movement as Medicine – Why walking, dancing, and joyful movement matter more than reps 38:00 Building the Buck Institute Longevity Lab – Behind the scenes of cutting-edge research 45:45 Balancing Ambition with Purpose – How Dr. Kapahi stays grounded while chasing big science 53:30 The Inner Scorecard – Living authentically and navigating success in research and life🔗 Links & Resources:Dr. Pankaj Kapahi’s Lab: https://www.buckinstitute.org/lab/kapahi-labFollow Dr. Kapahi on X (Twitter): https://x.com/pkapahiListen to The Inner Scorecard on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4myj9yZS4fctiC9wFeCcne?si=st8iKL4NTfyByS-frIQhgwHost’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/inner.scorecardHost’s X (Twitter): https://x.com/inner_scorecardEnjoyed the episode? Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more powerful insights from founders, scientists, and creators building with purpose.🎥 Follow us on X and Instagram for reels, behind-the-scenes clips, and future episodes.#LongevityScience #HealthyAging #IntermittentFasting #SugarIsTheEnemy #Healthspan #PankajKapahi #TheInnerScorecard #AgingReversal #MetabolicHealth #MuscleIsMedicine #AntiAging #BiohackingTips #FastingForHealth #BuckInstitute

Meet Leslie Pierson, the Seattle-based serial entrepreneur behind the hit family card game Taco vs Burrito and the innovative magnetic hanger GoodHangups (featured on Shark Tank). Leslie shares her fascinating journey—from teaching English abroad and working at Intel to creating award-winning startups.

Leslie’s entrepreneurial adventures began with GoodHangups, an invention inspired by her son's artwork. It not only won NBC’s Today Show “Next Big Thing” contest but also secured Leslie a deal with Lori Greiner on Shark Tank. 🎉 Her next venture, Taco vs Burrito, started from a brilliant idea by her 7-year-old son, Alex, transforming into a best-selling game on Amazon.

In this episode, Leslie reveals how she bootstrapped her ventures through scrappy innovation and successful Kickstarter campaigns. She provides an intimate glimpse into the unique experience of parenting a young co-founder, navigating roles both as mom and business partner. 🤯 Leslie emphasizes creative problem-solving and offers insights into the distinction between building products and scaling businesses, driven by her personal “inner scorecard.”

Chapters:

• 00:00 – Introduction: Meet Leslie Pierson

• 01:15 – Teaching Abroad & Early Tech Career

• 07:30 – First Startup Attempts & Lessons Learned

• 14:00 – Inventing GoodHangups to Solve a Problem

• 20:45 – Shark Tank Journey & Deal with Lori Greiner

• 28:20 – Taco vs Burrito: A Game Invented by a 7-Year-Old

• 35:50 – Bootstrapping a Family Business & Kickstarter Success

• 43:15 – Parenting a Young Co-Founder

• 50:00 – Launching "Bold Made" via Kickstarter ($177k Success!)

• 58:00 – Building vs. Scaling & Closing Thoughts

Links & Resources:

• Leslie Pierson’s LinkedIn: [Link to Leslie’s LinkedIn]

• Taco vs Burrito Official Website: [Link to Taco vs Burrito]

• Listen to The Inner Scorecard on Spotify: [Link to Spotify]

• Host’s X (Twitter): [Link to Host’s X]

• Host’s Instagram: [Link to Host’s Instagram]

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