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Every Christian parent longs to see their prodigal child—or any lost loved one—return to faith. But what if, in our eagerness to “speak truth” and correct their course, we’re actually widening the gap between them and God?

In this eye-opening episode, Catherine welcomes Michael French—an attorney-turned-pastor with decades of experience in both traditional church settings and unconventional, deeply relational ministry. Through friendships forged in unexpected places—from tabletop games to immersive role play—Michael has reached those the Church often overlooks or even avoids: witches, warlocks, LGBTQ+ individuals, and the spiritually wounded.

Michael’s story challenges how we think about evangelism, reminding us that Jesus always led with love before calling for change. He built relationships with the rejected, the broken, and the misunderstood—then spoke truth into hearts softened by compassion. This episode will reshape how you approach the prodigals and lost loved ones in your life—and rekindle hope that no one is too far gone.

Key Insights from the Episode

Relationship Before Evangelism
Jesus didn’t start with sermons—He started with dinner. Michael and Catherine unpack how Christ’s method started with relationship before sharing a hard truth. If we want to reach the lost, we must begin with compassion, curiosity, and shared humanity.

When Love Leads—Transformation Follows
Real change begins when people feel truly seen and heard. Transformation doesn't happen through lectures—it happens through love that listens and stays.

Truth Without Love Is a Weapon
“Love without truth is a lie. But truth without love is a weapon,” Catherine shares. The episode explores how truth, when delivered without empathy, can become a wedge—especially in families. But truth spoken in love becomes a bridge.

Practical Advice for Parents of Prodigals

• Ditch the Christianese. Speak like a person, not a pulpit.
• Model repentance. Say, “I’m sorry. I was wrong. Please forgive me,” for the times that you delivered truth in a harsh way. That humility opens doors.
• Trust the slow process. Progress may be invisible. But even moving from “-6 to -5” matters.
• Let God clean the fish. You’re called to speak truth in love, not to fix. Let Jesus handle transformation.

A Call for Christian Parents

You never have to compromise truth—but you must lead with love.
Is your pursuit of truth drawing your child closer…or pushing them away?

What apology do you need to make?
Where can you lead with empathy instead of argu

A good father forgives, restores, and keeps His promises. Sherri Kreps introduces us to our good, heavenly Father who invites us into a relationship with Him to be known, forgiven, and renewed.

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In this episode, Dr. John explores the true nature of faith, contrasting popular definitions with biblical teachings. Faith isn't a leap into the unknown, but trust in God's promises. Through the story of Abraham, we'll see how faith matures, growing from a shaky start to a confident trust in God's certain promises, even when life's challenges arise.

Confident Faith: In this 4-week series on Genesis 18-25, Dr. John Neufeld looks at the life of Abraham and unpacks the topic of faith. How is faith formed? How does faith mature? And how can faith help us trust in what God has promised, even though we can’t see it yet?

The Exodus Way E11 — After Jesus’ death, resurrection, and ascension, his followers grew into a movement known simply as “The Way”—a new exodus people delivered from sin and death, following the narrow way of Jesus through the wilderness of our present world and awaiting entry into a promised new creation. The Apostle Paul is a central figure in this movement, commissioned by the risen Jesus to spread the good news of the new exodus to the nations. He planted churches in several Roman cities and wrote letters to congregations of Jewish and Gentile believers. Paul was a Jewish man steeped in Israel's Scriptures, which is why we see him infusing Exodus language and imagery into his letters to the early Church. In this episode, Jon and Tim explore Paul’s letters to the churches in Corinth, Galatia, and Rome, discovering how Paul saw the death and resurrection of Jesus, the life of the Christian, and the larger story of creation as a cosmic exodus.

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CHAPTERS

1. Recap of Where We’ve Been (0:00-3:01)
2. Exodus Imagery in 1 Corinthians 5 (3:01-14:03)
3. Exodus Language in Galatians (14:03-31:41)
4. The Cosmic Exodus in Romans 8 (31:41-44:33)

OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

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REFERENCED RESOURCES

• The Homilies of St. John Chrysostom on the Epistles of St. Paul to the Corinthians by John Chrysostom
• Paul and His Story: (Re)Interpreting the Exodus Tradition by Sylvia Keesmaat
• You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.
• Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.

SHOW MUSIC

• “Lilo” by The Field Tapes & Middle School
• “Loving Someone You Lost” by The Field Tapes
• BibleProject theme song by TENTS

SHOW CREDITS

Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. 

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“A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children…” - Proverbs 13:22

That verse teaches that a life of faithful stewardship will enable you to leave something of great value to your heirs. How you do it can impact future generations. Jeanne McMains joins us today to talk about “intentional inheritance.” 

Jeanne McMains has been a practicing attorney in estate planning, business succession, and non-profits since 1995. She currently serves as the Vice President of Gift Planning with The National Christian Foundation (NCF), where she assists families nationwide with achieving their charitable gift-planning goals.

An intentional inheritance is more than the distribution of wealth. It’s a prayerful, purposeful plan for shaping the lives of those who will receive what we leave behind. Inheritance is one of the most significant stewardship decisions we make. It’s not just about how much but how—and why—we give.

This perspective calls for a deep shift. Before passing on wealth, we must first pass on wisdom. Otherwise, unmanaged or misunderstood wealth can do more harm than good.

Ask yourself: What role does wealth play in my life? Reframe your mindset around money—not as a measure of success or security but as a tool for Kingdom work. Wealth is an entrustment from God, not an end in itself. That means laying it down at the cross daily, asking the Lord to help us steward it with humility and grace.

To simplify this big task, here are three kinds of inheritance every Christian family should consider:

This is the traditional kind of inheritance—resources intended to provide opportunities, experiences, and essentials. Think of it as financial fuel to help your heirs live productive, content lives. But maturity matters. Consider using this inheritance to fund training, travel, or education before a large transfer, especially if the heir is still developing financial literacy or spiritual maturity.

This is where legacy comes to life. Instead of simply giving money, consider shaping character through shared experiences—like mission trips, retreats, or projects that reflect your family’s values.

We’re blessed to be a blessing. Set aside a portion of your estate to fuel generosity in the next generation. This might include donor-advised funds, charitable trusts, or other giving vehicles your heirs can use to support ministries or causes close to their hearts. This is how we teach our children to reflect God’s love through giving.

Here are four foundational steps to take:

Talk with your heirs about the purpose behind the inheritance. Focus less on how much and more on why. Share your values, your heart for the Kingdom, and how you hope the inheritance will be used to bless others. This conversation builds trust, understanding, and spiritual alignment.

It’s not about dollars and zeros; it’s about attitude, opportunity, and calling.

Choose financial and legal professionals who share your biblical worldview. Whether you're working with an estate attorney or a financial planner, the right team will help ensure your legacy is stewarded with wisdom and integrity. That’s why we recommend connecting with a Certified Kingdom Advisor (CKA). To find one near you, visit FaithFi.com and click “Find a Professional.”

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How does Scripture point to Christ? Together, we are studying Old and New Testament passages over the course of the year, learning how all of Scripture speaks to Jesus. Join us as we dive deep into the Old and New Testament and marvel at the ways Jesus is on every page of the Bible.

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What is a heart that is fully devoted look like? Today a Bold Steps a challenge to go “ALL IN” spiritually, as we begin a three-part message series that focuses on what it means to be fully devoted, what it looks like to be all in spiritually, when it can be easy to depend on relationships or experience which can ultimately sabotage that genuine, simple dependence on God.

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