"You are in a capacity where you don't have eminent domain over nothing in your life, EXCEPT how you respond and that's the only thing you really have."

Pepe talks with Tray Johns who was sentenced to over 12 years in a women's Federal prison for about $500 worth of drugs. You will learn about life inside a women's prison and hear the story of Tray's journey to, through and out of prison. Tray talks about the things that helped them feel happy, normal or simply okay in prison, having parties, responding to difficulties that arise & more. This an unreleased interview form an older podcast that Pepe recorded (but never published) while he was fighting his case & heading to prison himself.

HIGHTLIGHTS:

• Tray's difficult & impressive pre-prison life
• Becoming a "jailhouse lawyer"
• Teaching skills & empowering others while incarcerated
• Supporting/advocating for someone in prison
• Being recognized as a number not a human
• Social structures/prison families created by women in prison
• Birthdays & holidays in prison
• Advice for dealing with guards
• Does it get easier to serve your time as it goes on?
• Parenting from prison
• Difficulties for family and friends of an incarcerated person
• Advice for women who might be facing prison time

If you liked this episode you will enjoy Finding Happiness In Our Broken Places with Mitchell Gray:

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