In this podcast episode, Stan and Mike talk with self defense expert and attorney, Andrew Branca.  Andrew is the founder of lawofselfdefense.com and provides excellent content for those who carry for protection.  

The three talk about the 5 elements of self defense- Innocence, Imminence, Proportionality, Avoidance, and Reasonableness, and the importance of making sure that each element is met if you are ever forced to defend yourself.  They also talk about removing the ambiguity of situations in order to avoid a possible threat, and if you can't avoid, to be able to articulate your case.  

Time: 52:41