In this episode of Caffeine and Coils, Deanna and Jenny interview Shane McKnight, General Manager of Holden and Associates. Shane discusses the company's history, its focus on commercial projects, and the importance of partnerships with manufacturers. He highlights unique projects, such as data centers and schools, and addresses challenges like labor shortages and technological advancements in HVAC. The conversation also touches on training for new employees and the industry's resilience during COVID-19, concluding with a light-hearted game about movie descriptions.