Those who imagined, designed and delivered robo-debt put their personal ambition above the wellbeing of the people they were meant to serve. But there were some on the frontline who knew from the very beginning that this government shakedown was wrong.

One, Colleen Taylor, came forward at the royal commission. While senior leaders failed to recall, or refused to say how robo-debt happened, she told the truth and helped crack one of the biggest scandals in Australian government history wide open.

Today we speak to Centrelink worker-turned-whistleblower Colleen Taylor about what really happened when robo-debt was first rolled out.

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Guest: Former Centrelink worker Colleen Taylor.

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