In this episode of Inside the 90, the roles flip as Andrew hosts his wife Stacy, a stress specialist and founder of Evolve Beyond Limits. Together they unpack why consistency, not intensity, is the real differentiator between success and failure in both business and life. Stacy breaks down the stress cycle that keeps people stuck in all or nothing thinking, introduces her power of 12 framework for building new habits, and explains why operating at 80 percent capacity actually creates more sustainable growth than chasing 100 percent.

The conversation then turns to team dynamics, exploring why consistent EOS rhythms like weekly L10s and quarterly meetings are what quietly compound into real transformation, and what it looks like when Andrew and Stacy fall out of rhythm in their own marriage and business.

Key Topics

- The stress cycle and how all or nothing thinking leads to burnout.

- Finding the sweet spot between extremes for sustainable growth.

- The 80 percent rule for staying consistent without burning out.

- The power of 12 framework for building new habits and skills.

- Practical tricks for consistency, including doing hard things first and asking why.

- Scheduling to 80 percent capacity to build in margin and energy.

- Why consistency is the real engine behind EOS and team alignment.

- What happens to a team's culture when meetings get skipped.

- Connecting personal and business consistency to living the EOS life.

Chapters

0:00 - Introduction, roles reversed with Andrew hosting and Stacy as guest.

1:30 - Why consistency, the stress cycle, and burnout.

4:00 - Finding the sweet spot between extremes.

6:30 - Applying the sweet spot to a workout example.

8:00 - The 80 percent rule for individual consistency.

10:00 - The flat tire mindset and all or nothing thinking.

12:00 - The power of 12 framework.

15:00 - Tricks for consistency, doing hard things first and asking why.

19:00 - Scheduling to 80 percent and building margin.

21:30 - Transitioning to team dynamics and EOS.

23:30 - Why consistency is the game in EOS.

25:30 - What happens when you skip meetings.

28:30 - The trickle effect of an inconsistent culture.

31:00 - Why the best time to meet is when everything feels fine.

33:00 - Connecting consistency to the EOS life.

36:00 - Real talk, when Andrew and Stacy fall out of rhythm.

39:00 - Making meetings enjoyable and sustainable.

41:00 - What Stacy is building at Evolve Beyond Limits.

43:00 - Where to find Stacy and closing thoughts.

Mentions & Credits

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Wonder - https://workwithwonder.com

Evolve Beyond Limits - https://www.evolvebeyondlimits.com

Evolve Beyond Limits Podcast - https://www.evolvebeyondlimits.com/podcast

Evolve Beyond Limits Academy - https://www.stacygissal.com/EBLA

In this episode of Inside the 90, Andrew catches up with Tracey, marketing lead at YourSix, for her second appearance on the show. Tracey shares how she rolled out EOS inside her own two-person marketing department, using L10 meetings not just for task management but for mentorship, energy alignment, and human connection with her teammate Maddie.

The conversation moves into YourSix's journey from a hardware-heavy physical security company to a true SaaS platform, and how bringing on Wonder as a marketing partner after a funding round helped the team build real brand foundation before activating it externally.

Tracey and Andrew close with a candid look at authenticity in an AI driven marketing landscape, including how content needs to be honest and specific to be trusted by both customers and AI tools alike.

Key Topics

- Rolling out EOS and L10 meetings inside a small, distributed marketing department.

- Using L10s for mentorship and energy alignment, not just task tracking.

- Combining EOS with project management tools like JIRA.

- Tracey's path from physical security hardware into a SaaS focused career.

- What YourSix does with video surveillance and access control technology.

- Bringing on an outside marketing agency after a funding round.

- Building brand foundation before activating a brand externally.

- Why authenticity and vulnerability in content matter more in an AI driven world.

- Cybersecurity considerations when adopting AI tools in business.

Chapters

0:00 - Catching up and a Kansas City barbecue recommendation.

2:00 - Introducing Tracey and her role leading marketing at YourSix.

4:00 - Rolling out EOS inside the marketing department.

7:00 - L10 meetings, human connection, and mentorship.

10:30 - Combining EOS with the JIRA project management tool.

12:30 - Aligning rocks across a small marketing team.

14:30 - L10 as energy management, not just task tracking.

17:00 - Being resourceful and the who not how philosophy.

19:00 - Tracey's background in physical security and joining YourSix.

22:00 - What YourSix does with video surveillance and access control.

24:00 - Bringing on Wonder for marketing support after funding.

27:00 - Building trust and community working with an outside agency.

29:30 - Running on EOS together and shifting to 90 day brand activation.

32:00 - Refreshing and rebuilding the YourSix brand identity.

35:00 - Why foundational brand work has to come before activation.

37:30 - Authenticity in an AI driven marketing world.

40:00 - Cybersecurity considerations around adopting AI tools.

43:00 - Reframing content so AI tools can find and trust your brand.

46:30 - Where to find Tracey and YourSix, and closing thoughts.

Mentions & Credits

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Wonder - https://workwithwonder.com

YourSix - https://www.yoursix.com/

Traction Book - https://www.ginowickman.com/

JIRA - https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira

Adam Landrum - https://madetomatter.coach/

In this episode of Inside the 90, Andrew talks with Jenna Spencer, founder of AssistPro and a newly licensed EOS partner focused on delegation and elevation. Jenna traces her path from corporate banking to building a company that matches business leaders with the right assistant, a journey that started when she worked directly for two EOS implementers.

The conversation dives deep into why delegation fails, the difference between delegating tasks and delegating true ownership, and how to build trust with a new team member over time. Jenna shares practical frameworks, including the delegate and elevate tool, the relay race analogy, and the power of defining ideal outcomes instead of micromanaging the mechanics of a task.

Key Topics

- Jenna Spencer's path from corporate banking to founding AssistPro.

- Why most leaders struggle with delegation and end up doing task delegation instead of ownership delegation.

- The mail-checking analogy for understanding true delegated ownership.

- Where to start delegating, including knowing yourself and picking just a few things first.

- The real cost and return on investment of delegating a leader's time.

- Building trust with a new assistant or team member over time.

- Why protected weekly meetings matter for a healthy delegation relationship.

- The delegate and elevate tool and defining roles by quarter.

- Using DISC, Kolbe, and Working Genius to build well-matched teams.

Chapters

0:00 - Welcome to Jenna Spencer and introduction to AssistPro.

1:30 - Jenna's journey from corporate banking to founding AssistPro.

3:30 - Working as an assistant to two EOS implementers.

5:00 - Why delegation is one of the hardest leadership skills.

7:00 - Task delegation versus true ownership delegation.

9:30 - The mail-checking analogy for delegating ownership.

11:30 - Where to start delegating as a maxed-out visionary.

14:00 - Knowing yourself and picking a few things to delegate first.

16:30 - The real cost and ROI of delegating your time.

18:30 - Learning to slow down and build trust over time.

21:30 - Navigating trust and communication with an assistant.

24:00 - The importance of protected weekly meetings.

26:30 - Focusing on the issue, not the person.

28:00 - Tactical first steps to hiring an assistant.

30:30 - Using DISC and Kolbe to find the right match.

32:30 - The all-or-nothing rule for calendar and email delegation.

35:00 - The relay race analogy for handing off responsibilities.

37:00 - The delegate and elevate tool and defining roles by quarter.

39:00 - The Responsibility Clarifier and outcome-based delegation.

42:00 - Why unclear outcomes cause delegation to break down.

44:00 - Applying delegation lessons beyond assistants to any role.

46:00 - Using Kolbe, DISC, and Working Genius to build balanced teams.

49:00 - Where to find Jenna Spencer and closing thoughts.

Mentions & Credits

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Wonder - https://workwithwonder.com

AssistPro - https://assistpro.com

Alex Freytag - https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/alex-freytag

Delegate and Elevate Tool - https://www.eosworldwide.com/delegate-and-elevate

Gino Wickman - https://www.ginowickman.com

The 6 Types of Working Genius - https://www.workinggenius.com

Kolbe - https://www.kolbe.com

DISC - https://www.discprofile.com

Strategic Coach - https://www.strategiccoach.com

In this episode of Inside the 90, Jami sits down with Will Stewart, founder and CEO of 9/8 Central, a video production studio in Greenville, South Carolina. Will shares his winding path from teaching himself HTML in high school to freelancing in Hollywood to finally building his own studio during the early days of the pandemic.

He and Jami dig into 9/8 Central's first nine months on EOS, covering the messy early lessons around rocks, scorecards for a creative business, and learning to trust a leadership team as a high-visionary founder. The conversation closes with Will's take on staying intentionally sized, using AI to speed up content creation, and why video and genuine human connection matter more than ever in a hyper-automated world.

Key Topics

- Will Stewart's path from teenage web designer to Hollywood freelancer to founder of 9/8 Central.

- Building a video production studio from one employee at the start of the pandemic to a full team.

- Getting introduced to EOS through a hybrid coaching relationship and rolling it out company-wide.

- Early struggles with rocks, scorecards, and issue lists in a creative, project-based business.

- Learning to trust a leadership team as a high-visionary, high-quick-start founder.

- Defining a three-year picture and capping growth on purpose to protect team culture.

- Using AI tools internally to speed up content creation for clients.

- The content engine framework and shifting clients from one-off projects to recurring work.

- Why genuine, human video content matters more as digital connection becomes automated.

Chapters

0:00 - Welcome to Will Stewart and introduction to 9/8 Central.

2:00 - Studio tour and the spa day philosophy for clients.

5:00 - Will's origin story, teaching himself web design in high school.

8:00 - Falling in love with video as cameras became more accessible.

11:00 - Freelancing, a Hollywood mentorship, and lifestyle burnout.

14:00 - Founding 9/8 Central in March 2020 and early growth.

17:00 - Getting introduced to EOS through a hybrid coaching relationship.

20:00 - Focus Day, early ahas, and adjusting to being a visionary.

23:30 - Struggles with setting and completing rocks.

26:30 - Rolling out L10 meetings and scorecards for a creative team.

30:00 - Building a scorecard around client communication.

32:30 - Learning the issues list and the language of EOS.

35:00 - Trusting the leadership team and letting go of control.

38:00 - The three-year picture and defining what winning looks like.

40:30 - Building an internal AI tool to speed up content creation.

43:00 - Staying intentionally sized and avoiding the boom-bust agency trap.

45:30 - What's exciting for 9/8 Central this year.

48:00 - The content engine framework and recurring client work.

50:30 - Case studies, positioning, and working with Wonder on messaging.

53:00 - Where to find Will Stewart and closing thoughts.

Mentions & Credits

Wonder - https://www.workwithwonder.com

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

9/8 Central - https://98c.org

Jason Blumer - https://www.jasonblumer.com

The 6 Types of Working Genius - https://www.workinggenius.com

Seth Godin - https://seths.blog

Kolbe - https://www.kolbe.com

American Society of Cinematographers - https://theasc.com

In this episode of Inside the 90, Jami welcomes back friend of the podcast, Adam Landrum, for a catch-up conversation about his journey from agency owner to full-time executive coach. Adam breaks down the difference between coaching, consulting, and mentoring, and introduces his founder threshold framework, the three traps that keep 90 percent of companies from ever reaching a million dollars in revenue.

The conversation covers niching down, scarcity versus abundance mindset, the evolution of starting a business in the dot-com era versus today's AI-powered landscape, and the impact conscious leadership had on both of their careers. Adam closes with three practical takeaways for entrepreneurs, coach instead of direct, get a coach yourself, and build a pro-personal development program for your team.

Key Topics

- Adam Landrum's journey from agency owner to full-time executive coach.

- The difference between coaching, consulting, mentoring, and therapy.

- The founder threshold and the three traps of dependence, ambiguity, and survival

.- Moving from a scarcity mindset to an abundance mindset as an entrepreneur.

- Why niching down works best when you let the niche find you.

- Starting a business during the dot-com boom versus today's AI-driven landscape.

- In-person versus remote coaching and client relationships.- Company growth stages and the challenge of hiring your first employee.

- How conscious leadership reshaped Jami and Adam's approach to leading teams.

Chapters

0:00 - Welcome back to Adam Landrum and catching up.

1:30 - Adam's journey since selling Up and Up and becoming a full-time coach.

4:00 - Breaking down coaching versus consulting versus mentoring.

6:00 - Introducing the founder threshold and the three traps.

10:00 - Scarcity versus abundance mindset and the lesson from David C. Baker.

13:00 - Niching down and letting the niche find you.

16:00 - Starting a business in the dot-com era versus today's AI landscape.

19:00 - In-person versus remote coaching effectiveness.

22:00 - Company size stages and the challenge of hiring the first employee.

25:30 - The story of guaranteeing an employee's paycheck first.

28:00 - Conscious leadership and moving from unconscious to conscious leading.

31:00 - Three takeaways, coach don't direct, get a coach, and pro-personal development.

34:00 - Where to find Adam Landrum and closing thoughts.

Mentions & Credits

Wonder - https://www.workwithwonder.com

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Adam Landrum, Made to Matter - https://madetomatter.coach/

The Life That Matters Manifesto - https://www.manifestobook.com/

Made to Matter Podcast - https://www.buzzsprout.com/2489066

Traction Book - https://www.ginowickman.com/

Good to Great by Jim Collins - https://www.jimcollins.com/

Scaling Up by Vern Harnish - https://scalingup.com/

David C. Baker - https://punctuation.com/

Terry Weaver - https://terryweaver.com/

Erwin-Penland - https://www.epandco.com/

The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership - https://conscious.is/15-commitments

Strategic Coach - https://www.strategiccoach.com/

Kolbe - https://www.kolbe.com/

HubSpot - https://www.hubspot.com/

In this episode of Inside the 90, Jami reconnects with longtime friend John Sterling, a sales leader and entrepreneur who helped build Data Stream from a small maintenance software company into a $100 million business before it was acquired.

John shares the origin story, including a pivotal one-day consult from marketing legend Al Ries and the discovery of hiring by "avatar" using the Kolbe A Index. The conversation moves into John's current ventures, acquiring aging industrial software companies, coaching sales teams across industries, and experimenting with AI, including a talking avatar of himself and a growing fleet of AI agents running parts of his businesses. The episode closes with reflections on three major tech waves John has lived through: personal computers, the internet, and now agentic AI.

Key Topics

- The origin story of Data Stream, from a four-person company to a $100 million exit.

- How a one-day consult with marketing strategist Al Ries reshaped the company's growth strategy.

- Hiring by avatar using the Kolbe A Index to find repeatable sales talent.

- Lessons on niching down and staying in a market for the long haul.

- The whopper clause and structuring sales commission plans without caps.

- How sales management and accountability have changed with remote and hybrid work.

- Acquiring aging industrial software companies in the so-called silver tsunami.

- Building an AI talking avatar and a fleet of AI agents across multiple companies.

- Reflections on three major tech shifts, personal computers, the internet, and agentic AI.

Chapters

0:00 - Welcome and reconnecting with John Sterling.

1:00 - Origin story of Data Stream and joining Larry Blackwell's company.

4:00 - Al Ries's one-day consult and the strategy to claim market leadership.

6:00 - Growing from five million to one hundred million and the eventual sale.

7:30 - Discovering hiring by avatar with Bill Lee and the Kolbe A Index.

10:30 - Reconnecting with Jim Wanner and the KeyMark success story.

12:30 - Core lessons, being present, niching down, and the whopper clause.

16:30 - Current ventures, acquiring aging industrial software companies.

19:30 - Sales coaching philosophy and structuring comp plans.

22:00 - How sales management and accountability have evolved over time.

25:00 - Coaching clients across industries, including Myrtle Beach Golf Vacations.

27:30 - Building the AI Sales Professor talking avatar.

30:30 - Deploying AI agents across companies for marketing, finance, and M&A.

33:30 - Reflections on personal computers, the internet, and the agentic AI era.

36:00 - Where to find John Sterling and closing thoughts.

Mentions & Credits

Wonder - https://www.workwithwonder.com

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Data Stream Systems - https://www.infor.com/

Larry Blackwell - https://upstatebusinessjournal.com/tech-innovation/clemson-honors-software-entrepreneur/

Al Ries - https://www.alries.com/

Kolbe - https://www.kolbe.com/

KeyMark - https://www.keymarkinc.com/

Jim Wanner - https://www.keymarkinc.com/profile/jim-wanner/

Sterling Sales - https://sterlingsales.co

Noob School podcast and Sales for Noobs book - https://www.schoolfornoobs.com/

ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io/

Jason Lemkin - https://www.saastr.com/

Nolan Bushnell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolan_Bushnell

In this episode of Inside the 90, hosts Jami and Andrew tackle five common myths about the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS). They debunk the idea that EOS is a passing fad, unpacking growth stats and a third-party study showing EOS companies outgrow non-EOS peers.

They also address the perception that EOS is too rigid, explaining how its structure actually creates freedom rather than bureaucracy. Jami shares his own experience being introduced to EOS as an integrator, and the two discuss why rollout fears fade once teams experience the tools firsthand. They close by clarifying that EOS does not replace good leadership or run on autopilot, and that it can work for any organization with people, regardless of industry.

Key Topics

- Whether EOS is just a passing business fad, backed by adoption stats and a third-party growth study.

- The difference between healthy structure and bureaucratic rigidity within EOS.

- Why EOS tools create freedom and creativity rather than restricting teams.

- The fear that EOS rollout is something done to employees rather than with them.

- Jami's personal story of being introduced to EOS as an integrator.

- Why EOS is "caught, not taught" as it spreads through an organization.

- The myth that EOS replaces good leadership rather than requiring it.

- The misconception that EOS runs itself once implemented.

- Which industries and company sizes EOS actually works for.

Chapters

0:00 - Welcome and introduction to the five EOS myths.

1:00 - Myth one, EOS is a fad, covered with adoption numbers and a third-party growth study.

3:30 - Myth two, EOS is rigid, and the soccer field analogy for structure versus bureaucracy.

6:30 - Myth three, EOS is imposed on employees, and Jami's story of being introduced to EOS.

9:30 - Myth four, EOS replaces leadership, and why the tools depend on good leaders.

10:30 - Bonus myth, EOS runs itself, and why ongoing effort is still required.

11:30 - Myth five, EOS is not for my type of company, with a rundown of industries it serves.

13:30 - Closing thoughts and wrap-up.

Mentions & Credits

Wonder - https://www.workwithwonder.com

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Gino Wickman - https://www.ginowickman.com/

Traction Book - https://www.eosworldwide.com/traction-book

Get A Grip - https://www.eosworldwide.com/get-a-grip-book

Mark O'Donnell - https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/mark-odonnell/

Mint Mobile - https://open.spotify.com/show/042nIYeeIavPPVfwOvTvZt

Two EOS implementers, one Wonder Wagon, and a conversation that feels less like a podcast and more like two old friends reminding each other why the work matters. Mike Gruley of 1 Vision Advisors joins Andrew Geisel in the Wonder Wagon on the streets of Kansas City for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about the life of an EOS implementer.

They cover Mike's 33-year career before EOS, what made Traction feel like it was written specifically about him, what separates great implementation from checkbox compliance, and why the single most powerful question you can ask in any session room is also the simplest. They also get into something more personal: how two driven people are both learning to slow down, schedule at 85% capacity, and let their integrators tell them no.

Key Topics

- Mike's 33-year entrepreneurial career — from successes to train wrecks — and how frustration led him to Traction.

- Why Mike feels like he was the "poster child" for EOS before he ever became an implementer.

- Andrew shadowing Mike's early sessions and what it taught him about what not to do.

- What draws both of them to the session room: the push and pull, the truth-telling, and the moments when clarity finally breaks through.

- Why facilitators don't participate — and how self-implementing costs you access to your own truth.

- The most powerful question in the room: "What do you want?"

- Why an implementer who doesn't tell you the truth is committing fraud.

- Getting back to basics: both Andrew and Mike stripping away distractions and simplifying their lives and their practice.

- The 85% rule: scheduling to 85% capacity so 100% doesn't become 110 — and why it matters for driven people.

- Ruthlessly eliminating hurry — and how Mike's integrator Kim manages his calendar better than he ever could.

- Every yes is a no to something else, and how to make peace with that.

Key Chapters

0:00 - Welcome to the Wonder Wagon: a van, the streets of Kansas City, and two implementers.

1:30 - How Andrew got his start by shadowing Mike's sessions — and why Mike still has PTSD from it.

3:00 - Mike's origin story: 33 years in business, the book that felt written about him, and Preston True as his first implementer.

6:00 - Why they do it: unique ability, energy, and the feeling of walking out of a session room on fire.

8:30 - What great implementation actually looks like: rolling up sleeves, asking hard questions, solving real issues.

11:00 - Self-implementing vs. working with an implementer — and the truth-telling that's lost when you try to do both.

14:00 - "What do you want?" — and why peeling the onion always gets there eventually.

17:00 - Getting back to basics: Andrew and Mike both simplifying everything in their lives right now.

20:00 - The 85% rule: Stacy's stress management approach and what scheduling at capacity really costs you.

23:30 - Mike's integrator Kim, Krabby Mike, and the art of letting someone else protect your calendar.

27:00 - FOMO, driven people, and why every yes is a no to something else — including a podcast in a van.

30:00 - What's next: grandbabies in Chicago, Kim sitting in on a session, and ruthlessly eliminating hurry.

33:00 - How to reach Mike: cell phone, 248-761-4401.

Mentions & Credits

Mike Gruley - https://1visionadvisors.com

Traction Book - https://www.eosworldwide.com/traction-book

Gino Wickman - https://www.ginowickman.com

ENRG Greater Ann Arbor Chapter - https://thesecondgeargroup.com

Vistage Michigan - https://www.vistage.com

Wonder - https://workwithwonder.com

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Larry Garcia, co-founder of Strety, drops into the Wonder Wagon for a conversation that traces the full arc of how an internal tool built inside a Miami MSP software company became one of the most loved EOS platforms on the market.

Larry and Andrew connect the dots on how BrightGauge's EOS journey in 2015 planted the seed for Strety, why the MSP world was the perfect early proving ground, and how the company has grown from a few hundred users to 3,000+ companies in under a year — all while staying calm about it. They also dig into AI, the spirit of abundance that drives both the MSP and EOS communities, and what Strety is building next.

Key Topics

- How BrightGauge started running on EOS in 2015 after receiving Traction at a conference, and how that planted the seed for Strety.

- The origin of Strety as an internal tool that looked like Microsoft DOS — and why the code never got sold when BrightGauge was acquired in 2019.

- Why the MSP industry was the natural first market for Strety: technical culture, scorecard affinity, and a give-first peer group mentality.

- Growing from high triple digits to 3,000+ companies in a single year — calmly, on EOS.

- The ideal Strety customer: 40-100 users, established businesses that value beautifully built software and deep integrations.

- How Strety expanded beyond its Microsoft-only roots to support Google and other platforms.

- The AI note taker inside L10 meetings: tracking to-dos, flagging missed items, and keeping the integrator from drowning in notes.

- Every team member at Strety has an AI-based rock — what that looks like in practice.

- The three-year picture: more integrations, tasteful AI, and helping more companies grow calmly on EOS.

- The cooperative, abundance-minded culture of the MSP world and how it mirrors the EOS community.

Key Chapters

0:00 - Welcome to the Wonder Wagon: Larry Garcia and the origin story of Strety.

2:00 - BrightGauge, the MSP world, and how a Traction book from Nick Oleroon in 2015 changed everything.

4:30 - Building the first internal EOS tool: a Microsoft DOS-looking screen and rolling issues forward.

7:00 - BrightGauge sells in 2019 — and the Strety codebase stays with the founders.

9:00 - Why the MSP community is the perfect early market: technical DNA, peer groups, and the give-first mentality.

13:00 - How the Dosal brothers and Larry reconnected over wine and decided to rebuild the vision.

15:30 - Growth from triple digits to 3,000+ companies — and what "growing calmly on EOS" actually looks like.

18:00 - The ideal Strety customer and what sets the platform apart as artisan-built software.

20:30 - Microsoft roots and expanding to Google and beyond.

22:00 - AI in the L10: the note taker that helps integrators stop drowning in their own meeting.

25:00 - AI rocks for every team member and how Strety is approaching AI thoughtfully.

27:30 - The three-year picture and where to find Strety.

Mentions & Credits

Larry Garcia - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lgarcia314/

Strety - https://strety.com

BrightGauge Software - https://brightgauge.com

Shea Hauser / Green Cloud Technology - https://greencloud.tech

IT Nation / ConnectWise - https://www.connectwise.com/itnation

ENRG - https://thesecondgeargroup.com

Traction Book - https://www.eosworldwide.com/traction-book

Wonder - https://workwithwonder.com

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com

Forrest Derr, fractional integrator, founder of ENRG, and an Inside the 90 OG, joins Jami and Andrew in the Wonder Wagon for his eighth EOS US Conference. It's a wide-ranging conversation that covers his full arc — from being a full-time integrator at a telecom company who first read Traction when his visionary literally threw it across his desk, to founding a grassroots EOS community out of a coffee shop in Fairhope, Alabama that has now grown to over 85 chapters and officially taken over the EOS Conference.

Forrest also breaks down what fractional integration actually looks like in practice, why so many visionaries go through integrator after integrator, the concept of the "closet integrator," and the story behind the tattoo on his arm that is quite literally an integrator circuit. One of the most layered conversations to come out of the Wonder Wagon.

Key Topics

- Forrest's origin story: from full-time integrator at a telecom company to fractional integrator and community builder.

- Why visionaries burn through integrators — and how fractional integration breaks that cycle by teaching the mechanism before the relationship.

- The founding of ENRG: from a no-show coffee meeting in Fairhope to 85+ chapters nationwide.

- How Kyle Mealy and Second Gear Group became the rocket fuel that took ENRG from 5 chapters to running the EOS Conference.

- What fractional integration really looks like: 3 clients, Monday through Wednesday, 6 to 9 month engagements.

- The "closet integrator" concept — and why finding and freeing them is part of Forrest's mission.

- The invitation-only integrator mastermind: 10 integrators, once a month, a safe space to talk about what visionaries can't hear.

- The integrator circuit tattoo: a visionary light bulb, resistance for right people/right seats, Pi for process, and an equity curve — all drawn by an artist who refused to do anything boring.

- The Fractionator Playbook series and what Forrest is building next.

- Why 90-day thinking is the secret to not getting overwhelmed as a fractional entrepreneur.

Key Chapters

0:00 - Welcome to the Wonder Wagon: Forrest Derr, conference number eight, and an Inside the 90 OG.

1:30 - From full-time integrator to EOS convert: the day Traction hit his desk — literally.

4:00 - Self-implementation, Gene Moorhead, and the telecom company that needed a system.

6:30 - The origin of ENRG: a no-show coffee meeting that eventually became 11 people and a movement.

10:00 - From Fairhope to Fairhope plus Mobile to 5 chapters to 85+ in three years.

13:00 - The big news: ENRG is now the official caretaker of the EOS Conference.

15:30 - Meeting Kyle Mealy over bourbon and what happened when local chapters met national sponsors.

19:00 - What Forrest's fractional integrator practice actually looks like day to day.

22:00 - Why visionaries go through integrator after integrator — and how fractional integration fixes it.

25:30 - The invitation-only integrator mastermind and the difference between that and ENRG.

28:00 - Closet integrators: finding people trapped in the wrong seat who don't know there's a name for what they are.

31:00 - The integrator circuit tattoo: the full story, the tattoo artist who refused to do boring, and why his dad was mad for three weeks.

36:00 - The Fractionator Playbook series and what's on the horizon.

39:00 - 90-day thinking and where to find Forrest online.

Mentions & Credits

Forrest K. Derr - https://derrconsulting.com

Fractionator Playbooks - https://fractionatorplaybooks.com

ENRG - https://thesecondgeargroup.com

Fixers & Founders Podcast - Search on major podcast platforms.

Traction Book - https://www.eosworldwide.com/traction-book

Rocket Fuel Book - https://www.eosworldwide.com/rocket-fuel-book

Wonder - https://workwithwonder.com

EOS Worldwide - https://www.eosworldwide.com