This insight episode comes from full episode seventy-seven with Derek Kauneckis.

Derek is an associate professor at the Desert Institute in Nevada where his work focuses on the waste commons and technological innovation.

Derek talks with Michael about how watersheds can be viewed as an information system, and the importance of designing technology that fits and serves the needs of the system it is used in.

Derek’s website: https://www.dri.edu/directory/derek-kauneckis/