In a world filled with too many examples, it is sometimes incredibly difficult to separate the behavior from the person.  Other times… not so much.  In this episode, Ashley and Mark discuss the thread that connects Justice Jackson's hearing, The Williams Sisters and Jane Campion, and of course, the Oscars “slap”.  While each represents its own level of abhorrent behavior, we hope to shed some light on nuance, context, and how to engage when it's not our turn to lead the conversation. Enjoy!

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