The Alternative Flight Plan

Integrating Mind and Body in HealthCare with Dr Ryan Phillips, Neurogrove


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What happens when modern healthcare isn’t enough—and a new paradigm is waiting in the wings? On this episode of The Alternative Flight Plan Podcast, host Dr. Kristin Barnes welcomes Dr. Ryan Phillips, a naturopathic doctor, certified psychedelic-assisted therapy provider, and board-certified biofeedback expert. Together, they take flight into a powerful conversation on integrative mental health, psilocybin-assisted therapy, and the vital role of naturopaths in America’s broken healthcare system.


Dr. Phillips shares his personal journey from a conservative Indiana upbringing to living in the Himalayas, and how those years transformed his understanding of medicine, community, and healing. He unpacks the structural flaws in our system—particularly the divide between physical and mental health—and how his work at Transcendent Integrative Health and NeuroGrove is helping patients bridge that gap. He also dives deep into the regulation and economics of psychedelic care, offering an unfiltered look at the real costs and bureaucratic hurdles involved in creating legal access to psilocybin treatment.


This episode explores why true integrative medicine isn’t just about having a menu of modalities—it’s about crafting a five-course healing experience. From nutrition and neurofeedback to trauma-informed counseling and plant medicine, Dr. Phillips explains how to create synergistic systems of care that nourish the whole person, not just the symptoms.


If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to practice medicine differently—or how to access healing beyond the “Golden Corral buffet” of healthcare—this episode is a must-listen.


Watch the full conversation on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/kbnrXQvQLGY


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00:00 Navigating Healthcare: A New Perspective

02:46 Mind-Body Connection: Bridging the Gap

05:56 Cultural Influences on Health Perspectives

09:12 Integrative Approaches in Naturopathic Medicine

12:02 The Challenge of Accessibility in Healthcare

15:14 The Economics of Psychedelic Therapy

18:02 Regulation and Its Impact on Healing Practices

30:01 Navigating Mental Health Licensing and Accessibility

31:31 The Mental Health Crisis in America

36:06 The Role of Naturopathic Doctors in Mental Health

42:55 Integrative Approaches to Mental Health

49:45 Understanding the Complexities of Mental Health

56:27 The Collective Nature of Health and Healing

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The Alternative Flight PlanBy Kristin Barnes