Interchange

As we light the second candle of the Advent Wreath, Alan Hommerding reflects on Psalm 126. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Silent Night" from Colours) and W. Clifford Petty ("We Are Filled with Joy") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.

Join a conversation that fits like an old glove—Michael Silhavy jumps back in for our ongoing push and pull, the ever-present dialogue across generations. One rear-view mirror, one headlight, both essential parts of safely innovating our way into the future. This tension need not be one filled with animosity, but indeed is one that takes careful consideration, respect, and open hearts toward a common goal. Always a work in progress.

Guests: Michael Silhavy

Michael Silhavy is GIA’s Senior Project Editor. With degrees in music education, theology, and liturgical studies from De Paul University, Loyola University (Chicago), and Saint John’s University (Collegeville, MN), Michael has worked in parish, grade school, university, cathedral, and diocesan settings. He values the weekly experience of making music with a congregation as director of music at St. Mary Church, Riverside, Illinois. His work at GIA centers around choral and congregational music, hymnals, and working with composers and authors to create musical and liturgical resources for both Roman Catholic congregations and the wider ecumenical community. He worked with noted composer Richard Proulx in creating The Richard Proulx Collection, an annotated catalog of Proulx’s published and unpublished compositions housed at Saint John’s University in Collegeville, Minnesota and he contributed biographies on American composers and authors for the Canterbury Dictionary of Hymnology.

Songs heard in this episode: 

G-2371, Anthem for Pentecost, Proulx

G-10804, Shepherd Me, O God arr. Holland

As we light the first candle of the Advent Wreath, Victoria Zibell reflects on Psalm 25. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Winter" from Colours) and Leon C. Roberts ("To You, O Lord, I Lift My Soul) both published by GIA Publications, Inc.

 From the font of her baptism in the Philippines, to the overflowing waters of Initiation ministry and musical creativity, Diana Macalintal's faith journey reads like a true love story straight from the heart of God. In this candid and fruitful discussion, we discuss belonging, identity, awareness, representation, women in composition, and that ever-mysterious yet deeply tangible presence of Christ in the Eucharist and through one another.

Guests: Diana Macalintal

Songs heard in this episode: 

G-10335 Sweeter Than Life, Macalintal: https://giamusic.com/resource/sweeter-than-life-print-g10335

G-8009 Christ Has No Body Now But Yours, Lawton/de Silva: https://giamusic.com/resource/christ-has-no-body-now-but-yours-print-g8009

How many times have you wanted to flip the table of your own parish staff meeting? How much psychological safety do you experience in your workplace? Who makes the decisions when multiple voices of expertise are at the table, and how can the hierarchy of power dynamics hinder our relationship building on our own pastoral staff? How do we train our leadership to set up the right kinds of environments to make optimal the kinds of decisions you need to make? Explore all these questions and more with the co-founder of the Cambridge Negotiation Institute, Bob Bordone, to see how best practices in conflict resolution can benefit the working relationships between pastors, musicians, parish staffs, and the diversity of gifts in the congregations they serve alongside.

Guest: Bob Bordone, Cambridge Negotiation Institute

Robert C. Bordone (Bob) is an internationally-recognized expert, author, speaker, and teacher in negotiation, conflict resolution, mediation, and facilitation.  A Senior Fellow at Harvard Law School, he served on the full-time faculty at Harvard Law School for more than twenty years as the Thaddeus R. Beal Clinical Professor of Law, Director, and Founder of the Harvard Negotiation & Mediation Clinical Program before launching his full-time consulting, advisory, speaking, and training practice.  He also serves as the Director of the Consensus Building Institute Training Academy and as an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University Law Center. Bob has has also been a Visiting Clinical Professor of Conflict Transformation at Boston University’s School of Theology.

Bob’s current research and writing interests include the assessment, reform, design, and implementation of dispute handling systems and developing and testing methods of effective public dialogue on issues that cut to the core of identity, meaning, belonging, and belief. As part of this work on healthy dialogue, Bob has teamed with a media company called The Disagreement that fosters engaging and respectful conversation across lines of difference. In addition, he is currently writing Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In (HarperCollins Business, 2025) with Joel Salinas, MD and is the co-author of two books: Designing Systems and Processes for Managing Disputes, 2d. Edition (Wolters-Kluwer, 2019) and The Handbook of Dispute Resolution (Jossey-Bass, 2005). He has also published articles in leading business and dispute resolution journals including the Harvard Business Review, the Harvard Law Review, the Harvard Negotiation Law Review, the Ohio State Journal on Dispute Resolution, the Journal of Dispute Resolution, Negotiation Briefings, Dispute Resolution Magazine, and Negotiation Journal. Bob’s writing and commentary have appeared in various print and broadcast media outlets including NBC News, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, America, The Chicago Tribune, CNN’s Situation Room, and BBC Radio.

Bob received his J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School, and his A.B., summa cum laude, from Dartmouth College where he majored in Government.Follow him on Twitter with the handle @bobbordone on his website at www.bobbordone.com or by subscribing to his YouTube channel.

It's always more than just a song, than just singing: it's a language, a communication style, a tool of liberation and a transformational symbol of unity. Chicagoland author Madison Chastain highlights two key ways that music has shown up in her life: in interdenominational relationships and as an embodied experience for bodies of all abilities. Accessibility is a key ingredient of good liturgical practice, ensuring the participation of the whole community. Madison's wisdom centers around this question: how can bearing witness to these diverse ways of interacting with and encountering the divine--through music!--is ministry. If a person with a disability is displaying a new way of engaging with Jesus, this is an opportunity to follow their lead, a way to see a fuller picture of Image and Likeness of our Creator.

Guest: Madison Chastain

What do you do in the midst of loss and grief? Perhaps one essential part on our journey is to find someone who can accompany us, someone who knows life's ebbs and flows well, someone who can help us keep putting one foot in front of the other, or keep vigil with us while we wait. Music, like a good friend, might help us bridge those gaps. Music, with a good friend, can mark our seasons with beauty and dignity, reminding us that we are never alone. Loss is real--so, too, is all that remains. How can we show up for each other? In loving memory of Charlie Odegard.

Guest: Jennifer Schmidt Odegard

It's more than any one liturgy, any one language, any one culture, and certainly more than any single song. One thing that can keep us grounded in our daily labors is the remembering of what brought us here, and what keeps us pushing forward. What's your reason? What has captivated you? Who's a part of your picture? Where do you find vitality? What's your place in this dream of Kingdom-building?

Guests: Peter Kolar and Julio de León

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