Angela and Isak talk about online, virtual church with Zer, online pastor of Fielder Church in Arlington, TX. Online church was not new but became very common since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, and some argue that this is a positive development that shows that the church is utilizing the technology of the times. Others, however, disagree, and think that just like virtual reality is not the real thing, virtual church is not real church and should be avoided now that lockdowns have ceased. How should Christians think about online community, and in what ways can we use the benefits of modern technology while avoiding its pitfalls? Zer brings a wealth of experience and study to this topic for an enlightening discussion.