Louis Martin is the author of "The True Believers," the story of how he became involved in a martial arts school in Monterey, California that had a charismatic teacher and a cult-like atmosphere. Ken Gullette talks with Louis in a wide-ranging discussion of critical thinking skills, what kind of people are lured into martial arts cults, and how you can tell if you are showing signs of being a "True Believer" (it is not a good thing to be). Louis trained for years in Seibukan, which is a combination of Japanese jujutsu and Aikido. He now trains in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Ken teaches Chen Taiji, Bagua Zhang and Xingyi Quan and has an online learning site at www.internalfightingarts.com.