Matt interviews Rev. Dr. Juliann Joy, pastor of Central Presbyterian, in Massillon, OH. The interview not only celebrates her new ministry, it also begins to explore Jules’ field of study, which provides a pathway of conversations between sciences and theologies. We also celebrate how Dr. Joy sees ministry unfolding in her new city. She references “Redeeming Fear” by Jason C. Whitehead. In addition, if you want to learn more about the basics of “Flipping Your Lid” see Dan Siegel, the guru.