Clyde Lewis of Ground Zero, back after nearly six months of hospitalization from kidney failure and dialysis, joins David Knight for a wide-ranging conversation on the Trump administration's accelerating UFO breadcrumb campaign — and Lewis's three-decade assessment is that disclosure won't be identification, it'll be another interpretation, another costume on an old god. The deeper thread running through the conversation is the replacement of transcendence with technology: Lewis draws a straight line from the medieval concept of the demonic to the alien, from the alien to AI, and argues that people surrendering judgment to artificial intelligence are committing the same category error as someone treating an Ouija board as an oracle.
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