On today's episode, we sit down with Hyrum Lewis to discuss the misconceptions of political polarization. He is the co-author of the forthcoming book "The Myth of Left and Right."  In our chat, Hyrum talks about how the words "left" and "right" have become meaningless in today's political climate, and how what we are really experiencing is people self-sorting into tribes. It's a fascinating chat that will challenge your perception of American politics.

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