Rob was lucky enough to sit down with Derek Paxton, now of Stardock, but formerly of Fall From Heaven 1/2 fame. If you're unfamiliar with Fall From Heaven, it was an incredibly detailed and well-received mod for Civilization 4 and is still considered one of the best mods for any game, ever.

Rob and Derek talk about Derek's move into game development, the games he's worked on, and some hints at what's to come.

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