this interview was with my sister Rachel Karnuth. in this interview, we discuss her daughter Celia's diagnosis with a rare autoimmune condition, and how we strategized her recovery using real food in place of immune-suppressing and chemotherapy drugs. we discuss how she included the supervision and assistance of a medical doctor who is also a functional medicine doctor. this was such an inspiring story, full of useful advice for families with kids!

there's a small break in the middle where our audio device shut off! and stick around at the end because Rachel sends in some additional thoughts!

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