In which we talk to Zach Barth (1986), designer of SHENZHEN I/O (2016), EXAPUNKS (2018), and many other genre-defining “programming games.”
Zach insists the Zachtronics catalogue isn't meant to teach you anything. Pippin agrees to disagree. David is accused of having a substandard laptop. These, and other GAMETHINGS.
Zach Barth was developed and published by his parents in 1986.

In which we talk to Zach Barth (1986), designer of SHENZHEN I/O (2016), EXAPUNKS (2018), and many other genre-defining “programming games.” Zach insists the Zachtronics catalogue isn't meant to teach you anything. Pippin agrees to disagree. David is accused of having a substandard laptop. These, and other GAMETHINGS. Zach Barth was developed and published by his parents in 1986.

Interview with Zach Barth (1986)

GAMETHING is an audio book-club about videogames. Each episode, experimental game designer Pippin Barr and oral historian David Wolinsky choose a game to play separately and exchange answering machine messages about it until the tape runs out. The result is a conversation about anything and everything (mostly everything) they find interesting about videogames.

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Interview with Zach Barth (1986)

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