This week, Debi is joined by Steele Brand, associate professor at Arizona State University.

In 2016, the Arizona Legislature established and funded the School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership (SCETL) at ASU aiming to promote the study of Western civilization, American institutions, and free-market philosophy. Professor Brand is one of the professors who teaches in this important program

Debi and Professor Brand discuss the importance of a classical liberal arts education which emphasizes reading historical and original source texts as well as deep analysis and discussion.  We cannot preserve Western Civilization if we are not teaching its history and principals to future generations.

Debi and Professor Brand discuss the importance that revolutionary era thinkers and leaders with vastly different backgrounds and belief systems placed on morality, religion and truth. 

Finally, they discuss the programs available at ASU as well as the opportunities for the public to take part in lectures and other events. 

To learn more about the School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership at ASU, visit https://scetl.asu.edu/

To Find out more about Dream City Church visit  https://dreamcitychrch.us

Professor Brand's book recommendations:
    Lives, by Plutarch
    American Constitutionalism by Gillman, Graber, and Whittington.
    The Great Tradition by Richard Gamble.
    The Golden Thread, by James Hankins and Allen C. Guelzo.

Debi's book recommendation: Veritas Press Omnibus homeschool curriculum on classics: Veritas Press | Omnibus

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This week, Debi is joined by Leisa Brug, VP of Advocacy at Center for Arizona Policy and CAP Action.

Leisa shares un update on the systematic dismantling of our state's common sense pro-life laws following the tragic passing of Prop 139 in November.  Elections have consequences

Debi and Leisa discuss the process of how a bill becomes a law and the work that goes on behind the scenes to draft and pass good legislation.  Leisa and Debi encourage viewers to go to the Capitol to sit in the gallery or sit in on a committee hearing to get a firsthand education on the legislative process.

Finally, Leisa and Debi talk about the enormous importance of the 2026 elections. Midterm elections typically have a lower voter turnout and historically tend to skew against the party in the White House.  This election year needs to be all hands on deck.

To learn more about the Center for Arizona Policy visit https://www.azpolicy.org/

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This week, Debi is joined by Gabriel and Kellee Napoleon.

Gabriel and Kellee share the story of their own road to redemption.  They talk about meeting in addiction and living in that addiction for years.

After testing positive for drugs following the delivery of their third child, their lives suddenly hit a crossroads.  Kellee and Gabriel talk about how ending up at the Phoenix Dream Center changed the trajectory of their entire family's lives for good.  

Debi, Gabriel and Kellee also talk about how governmental systems in many ways set them up to fail. They succeeded because they were determined to follow God and to get their kids back and they had strong support from family and from the body of Christ. Through all of this God worked a miracle in their lives. 

To learn more about the Phoenix Dream Center visit https://phoenixdreamcenter.org/

To Find out more about Dream City Church https://dreamcitychrch.us

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This week, Debi is joined by State Representative Pamela Carter

Representative Carter talks about what led her to run for office and about the role that faith plays in her life and work.

Debi and Representative Carter discuss the important role of state government. Rep Carter walks through the process of how bills get heard, discussed, and voted on at the State Capitol.

They also discuss the ways in which you and I can participate in the legislative process and voice our opinions on bills being considered. They talk about Representative Carter's help with Dream City Civics recent tour of the state capitol

To learn about our state legislators, track bills and see legislative calendars, visit https://www.azleg.gov/

To learn about the bills that Representative Carter is sponsoring including HB2666 concerning the sexual extortion of minors, visit https://www.azleg.gov/house-member/?legislature=57&session=130&legislator=2354

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This week, Debi is joined by Bruce and Kim Ketola from Kairos Prison Ministries

Bruce and Kim talk about the work of Kairos Prison Ministries and how they got involved.

Debi, Bruce and Kim discuss the importance of outreach to those who are incarcerated and to their loved ones. The Kairos retreat model shares the love of Christ with male and female prisoners and helps develop them to be leaders both in and out of prison.   Kairos has a proven track record of making prison atmospheres calmer, with less internal crime among prisoners. It also has been shown to reduce recidivism and stop the cycles of crime that cause individuals to be repeat offenders and pass that cycle on to their children.  
To learn more about Kairos Prison Ministries or to get involved in prison outreach https://kairosprisonministry.org/

To learn more about prisons in Arizona 
Arizona profile | Prison Policy Initiative

To Find out more about Dream City Church https://dreamcitychrch.us

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This week, Debi is joined by Tammy O'Connor, campaign leader for 40 Days for Life

Tammy shares her personal story of the tragedy of abortion and how that led her to get involved in the life movement. 

Debi and Tammy talk about 40 Days for Life, how it got started and its impact.  They discuss the deceptive and sometimes hostile practices of abortion clinics and how they do everything to prevent women from hearing the truth and receiving prayer while they are on their way into their abortion appointment.  

They also discuss the ways in which the Biden administration and the Obama administration targeted pro-life workers and in particular those praying on sidewalks outside clinics. This is due in large part to the effectiveness of that type of ministry. When people are praying outside an abortion clinic, cancellations and decisions for life go up. 

To connect with 40 Days for Life and sign up for a shift to pray outside an abortion clinic visit https://www.40daysforlife.com

To learn more about abortion pill reversal visit https://www.abortionpillreversal.com/

To Find out more about Dream City Church https://dreamcitychrch.us

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This week, Debi is joined by Lucy Breen and Season Reynolds, co-founders of Pursuit Ministry at Dream City Church.

Debi, Season and Lucy discuss a previous episode of Into the Fire with Season about the specific and unique needs of singles in churches across the country. 

In this episode, they discuss how Lucy and Season launched a ministry designed for singles of all ages.  It can be particularly challenging to develop a singles ministry for a number of reasons. One is that there is a wide range of ages and life situations:  divorced, widowed, never married, with and without children.  Another huge issue is that singles ministries are often perceived as a "meat market" 

Pursuit strives to be unique, offering fun events, 3rd space get togethers and classes all designed to encourage community and growth. 

To connect with Pursuit visit https://www.dreamcitychurch.us/locations/phoenix-az/ministries/singles/

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This week, Debi is joined by Ashley Trussell, founder of Butterfly Effect Foundation

Ashley and Debi discuss foster care group homes and the unique needs of teens who are unable to be placed with a family.  While they are provided for and supervised, they often lack the bonding and connection that comes with family.  These young people often miss out on things that the rest of us take for granted, like going to professional sporting events and learning how to drive. 

Debi and Ashley discuss the powerful role that mentors can play in the lives of these young people. Ashley explains how and why she set up her mentorship program which is primarily aimed at girls in group homes who are close to "aging out" of the system. 

To connect with Butterfly Effect Foundation visit http://butterflymentors.org/

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This week, Debi is joined by Alison Furno, previous co-host of Into the Fire and a volunteer leader with Dream City Civics

Debi and Alison discuss the alarming rise in a favorable view of Communism among young Americans.  

Debi and Alison discuss the dangers of an overreaching federal government and how the founders tried to warn of this.  They talk about how dependence on government programs and assistance is exceedingly difficult to dial back and that a government which is big enough to provide for an individual's needs can also withhold those goods to control the public. 

Finally they discuss the biblical implications of socialism and that one of the biggest dangers is that of replacing God as our provider, Jehova Jireh. 
To check for upcoming events with Dream City Civics 
visit https://dreamcity.church/civics (save and check after the holidays)  

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This week, Debi is joined by Pastor Saeed Hosseini, prayer pastor at Dream City Church and founder of the Global 365 Prayer Network

Pastor Saeed shares his background growing up in a Muslim family in Iran. Debi and Pastor Saeed discuss some of the tenets of Islam, the dangers and oppressions of the belief system and how that ideology is incompatible with American freedom. They also discuss the alarming rise in Islam in America and some of the reasons for this rise.

Pastor Saeed also talks about his conversion to Christianity and the freedom that a relationship with Christ brings. Debi and Pastor Saeed also discuss the power of the Holy Spirit, as well as the strength and discernment the Spirit gives to believers.

Finally, they discuss the hope that we have and that even though the times can look bleak, the Word of God provides answers to all of the things that we are seeing around us.
To connect with the Global 365 Prayer Network visit https://prayerpavilion.org/

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