Into the Unknown

On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What does it look like to build something global without a roadmap just instinct, resilience, and a deep belief in what’s possible? In this episode of Into the Unknown, Jeremy Swick sits down with Ellaine Gelman, a former rugby player turned international founder, to unpack a life shaped by bold decisions and unlikely pivots. From leaving the U.S. for Oxford Law to discovering a new future through rugby sevens, Ellaine shares how a single year abroad quietly rewrote the direction of her life.

The conversation moves from frozen early‑morning training sessions in England to launching elite rugby camps at Olympic venues, connecting players across continents, and building LIT7s into a movement rooted in experience not hype. Ellaine opens up about betting on herself before the outcome was clear, designing opportunities that didn’t exist when she was younger, and why access, inspiration, and community matter just as much as winning. This episode is about more than sport it’s about what can happen when passion meets persistence and someone decides to build the thing they once wished for.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What happens when passion refuses to clock out? In this episode of Into the Unknown, Jeremy Swick sits down with freelance sportswriter and podcaster Liam Hanley to explore what it really means to build a creative career without a safety net and without losing your voice along the way. From long nights editing podcasts to walking away from writing jobs that paid but drained him, Liam shares the grit behind choosing fulfillment over formulas.

This conversation weaves together sports, storytelling, and identity from rugby pitches that forged lifelong brotherhood to press credentials earned through consistency, not shortcuts. Liam opens up about navigating the modern sports media landscape, the tension between SEO-driven content and meaningful writing, and why believing words still matter might be the boldest stance a freelancer can take today. You’ll walk away with a deeper appreciation for the unseen work behind creative careers and a renewed respect for those who keep showing up anyway.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What if narcissism isn’t just about ego but about hidden vulnerability and misunderstood defense? On this episode of Into the Unknown, host Jeremy Swick sits down with psychoanalyst Dr. Anthony Mazella for a thoughtful, perspective-shifting conversation about high-conflict relationships and what really drives narcissistic behavior. Together, they explore how deeper reflection, curiosity, and precise language can open doors to healing even in the most challenging dynamics.

Whether you’re navigating a parent, partner, or personality you just can’t quite understand, this episode offers practical insights and emotional depth. Jeremy and Dr. Mazella unpack the power of slowing down, why “just trying to help” can backfire, and how to approach connection with both compassion and boundaries. If you've ever felt erased or confused in a relationship, this one offers a radically different lens and a place to begin.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What do museums, football legends, and social media strategy have in common? For Jeremy Swick historian, curator, and founder of SWICK Media the answer lies in one word: connection. In this energizing episode from YB’s Collaboration Corner, Jeremy joins Robert "Coach YB" Youngblood to unpack his unconventional career journey, how storytelling powers every platform he touches, and why authenticity wins whether you're managing a Hall of Fame archive or helping a small business grow online.

Jeremy shares how being part of Dr. Eric Thomas’ Breathe University shaped his approach to community, how LinkedIn helped him connect with CEOs through his love of sports cards, and how collaboration continues to unlock opportunity at every level of his work. If you're a creator, coach, or business owner looking to build impact without losing your humanity this episode will leave you inspired and clear on the power of showing up as your full self.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What happens when your life begins in the middle of a civil war and you're told you'll never be “normal”? For Jeremy Swick, joy wasn't something that arrived easily, but something built moment by moment through deep gratitude, purpose-driven resilience, and a refusal to let circumstance define his future. In this powerful episode from Joy Unleashed with Coleen Greco, Jeremy opens up about his earliest days in a Guatemalan orphanage, surviving brain trauma as an infant, and how those experiences shaped the joyful, grounded, and growth-minded man he is today.

From collector to curator, educator to entrepreneur, Jeremy shares his journey of saying yes to unlikely opportunities, trusting his intuition, and redefining abundance in a way that aligns with who he truly is. This conversation is a reminder that even in the hardest chapters, there are glimmers of joy waiting to be claimed and that when we honor our story, we unlock the power to help others heal too. If you're seeking purpose, perspective, or a reason to believe again, this one’s for you.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What do you do when you have a master’s degree... and end up scrubbing toilets on the night shift? For historian Jeremy Swick, that rock-bottom moment became the catalyst for a career transformation few could predict. On this powerful episode from Get Authentic with Marques Ogden, Jeremy shares the raw truth behind his rise from janitor to Hall of Fame curator and the unfiltered steps in between.

Together with host Marques Ogden, Jeremy explores the power of feedback, the importance of doubling down on your strengths, and how embracing unlikely jobs can open unimaginable doors. Whether you're in a career pivot or searching for purpose, his journey will challenge how you see failure and show you why no path is ever wasted.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What separates a podcast that ranks globally from one that fades by episode 12? In Part 2 of this eye-opening conversation, Olivia Atkin returns to break down the unspoken truths behind podcast success and the silent killers that derail momentum. From launch-to-scale systems to real client case studies, Olivia shares the blueprint that’s taken dozens of shows from idea to international visibility, with data-backed results and hard-won lessons from behind the scenes.

This episode is a masterclass in what it actually takes to build a podcast that grows, converts, and creates long-term opportunity. Whether you're a host seeking more impact, a guest looking to stand out, or an entrepreneur using podcasting as a lead gen engine, Olivia pulls back the curtain on what works and what absolutely doesn’t in today’s saturated market. If you’re ready to scale with strategy instead of guesswork, this one’s for you.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What if the best networking strategy today isn’t a coffee date or cold pitch but a podcast mic? In Part 1 of this high-impact conversation, Olivia Atkin returns with host Jeremy Swick to unpack how podcasting has quietly become the most powerful way to build real relationships, grow brand trust, and create opportunities that no pitch deck can replicate. From casual conversations to long-term collaborations, Olivia shares how one authentic episode can unlock unexpected doors—and why most podcasters are missing it.

You’ll hear the behind-the-scenes systems that separate shows that scale from those that stall, including Olivia’s vetting process, prep structure, and guest curation strategy that’s helped hundreds of voices make a lasting impact. If you’ve ever wondered how to turn your podcast into a connection engine (without sacrificing your voice or vision), this episode is your blueprint.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What happens when a “safe” life mapped by corporate checklists collides with a calling too loud to ignore? In this deeply personal episode of Into the Unknown, Jeremy Swick sits down with Katrina Julia a multi-passionate entrepreneur, global traveler, and transformational voice who left behind the predictable path of finance, titles, and tailored suits for a nomadic life rooted in purpose, wellness, and creator-led freedom.

Katrina shares how the sudden loss of her best friend became a wake-up call to reevaluate her own purpose and alignment, sparking a journey through faith, fitness, entrepreneurship, and worldwide retreats. From building systems in corporate oil and gas to crafting retreats in Bali, she opens up about reinvention, grief, global impact, and why learning to say “no” became just as powerful as saying “yes.” Get ready to rethink how you define success, fulfillment, and what it really means to live your truth.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What does Thanksgiving have to do with football — and why can’t we imagine one without the other? In this special holiday episode, host Jenna Duddleston welcomes football historian Jeremy Swick to unpack the incredible story behind America’s favorite Thanksgiving tradition. From college rivalries in the 1800s to the Detroit Lions’ first game in 1934, and the Dallas Cowboys’ business-savvy debut in 1966, Jeremy reveals how the NFL turned a holiday pastime into a national spectacle.

Together, they dive into the marketing genius that made football the heartbeat of Thanksgiving — exploring how the league captured family living rooms, mastered storytelling, and even created cultural icons like John Madden’s turkey legs. Whether you’re a sports fanatic or just here for the mashed potatoes, this episode will change how you see the game playing in the background of your family’s feast.

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